I don't understand what you mean. There've been a lot of answers. We know almost everything about what happened.
A light plane crashed into the sea , not sure what else there is to know.
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I don't understand what you mean. There've been a lot of answers. We know almost everything about what happened.
'WE'?I don't understand what you mean. There've been a lot of answers. We know almost everything about what happened.
What are your asking for? His last words?'WE'?
You're a member of the family?
I'm not asking for anything, his family are though, so perhaps you should fuck off?What are your asking for? His last words?
That really is a cunt of a move.Cardiff City has passed on details to prosecutors in France to consider whether FC Nantes has a case to answer over the death of Emiliano Sala.
37 minutes ago
The Argentine, 28, and his pilot died when their plane from France to Wales crashed in the sea on 21 January 2019.
The Bluebirds have refused to pay a £15m transfer fee to the French club and said "sufficient evidence of wrongdoing" has been found.
Nantes said the club was "absolutely stunned" by the move.
Emiliano Sala death: Cardiff send file to French prosecutors
The Bluebirds say there is "sufficient evidence of wrongdoing" surrounding the player's transfer.www.bbc.co.uk
That really is a cunt of a move.
They might not have "got" him but IIRC he was registered as a player with them. So he was their player.Well, they don’t want to pay for a player they didn’t get. But I agree it’s really cunty.
They might not have "got" him but IIRC he was registered as a player with them. So he was their player.
I might have that wrong?
Fifa ruled he was a Cardiff player and they owe Nantes the first payment its now going to CAS as Cardiff are appealing.They're arguing about the registration details though. No fucking idea if they're in the right about it or not though.
Tbf, Cardiff said they spoke to Nantes about splitting the fee between them and paying it to the families of the deceased, which seems to me to have been an ideal solution.
Nobody coming out of this looking good, right now.
Fifa ruled he was a Cardiff player and they owe Nantes the first payment its now going to CAS as Cardiff are appealing.
If nobody is coming out of this looking good Cardiff have consistently looked worst.
They're arguing about the registration details though. No fucking idea if they're in the right about it or not though.
Tbf, Cardiff said they spoke to Nantes about splitting the fee between them and paying it to the families of the deceased, which seems to me to have been an ideal solution.
Nobody coming out of this looking good, right now.
According to ESPN Cardiff are linking the agentsSurprised neither club has tried to involve the 'agent' (Willie McKay and son ?) who organised the flight, which they should/must have known was technically breaking the law although relatively common practice at that time (or so I understand), and who must have owed a duty of care to the passenger and to look after the player on behalf of one or other club.
Possibly a bit of a grey area, but I'm sure whoever loses the case around the transfer will involve the agent next, as I'm betting the player wasn't insured to undertake such a flight.
According to ESPN Cardiff are linking the agents
CAS to rule on Cardiff's €6m Sala payment
The Court of Arbitration for Sport will decide on the final outcome in the ongoing legal battle between Cardiff and Nantes over Emiliano Sala.www.espn.com
"However, Cardiff claimed the circumstances surrounding Sala's death, in a plane organised by an agent who brokered the transfer, meant Nantes were liable for damages caused to them and appealed to CAS. "
If you go after the agents you are looking for compensation, i.e. they would have to pay Nantes and then recoup back from Nantes / Agent in compensation (depending upon liability).Interesting but no surprise
ATM, Cardiff are trying to go after Nantes as they have deep pockets/are owed the cash.
If Cardiff go after the agents I cant see Cardiff being able to argue that Nantes are responsible for every detail of the agents actions (although I might be wrong in law ) as that means every time the agent sneezes Nantes is responsible - so whilst Nantes maybe responsible for the agent organising a plane flight, they are not responsible for the agent organising a plane flight which broke the law and was inherently dangerous (pilot not licenced to carry passengers or fly at night etc) unless Nantes were expressly told - its the agents responsibility
So it then becomes a question as to whether, if found to be responsible for organising a flight with an unlicenced pilot, they have the deep pockets to pay Cardiff (who I think will be found to have bought the player.
Thoughts ?
If you go after the agents you are looking for compensation, i.e. they would have to pay Nantes and then recoup back from Nantes / Agent in compensation (depending upon liability).
They are currently arguing that the deal didn't go through rather than go through a potentially long / drawn out court case against first the agency (that will go bankrupt) and then Nantes.
I think we are basically saying the same thing, the deal got international clearance TMS and they announced him as their player - the Silva deal to Leicester seems relevant as they couldn't go back on that deal regardless of EPL registration or not.
I don't understand how this is news; it has been known since the first few days following the crash.Emiliano Sala crash: Pilot Ibbotson 'not licensed for flight'
Investigators also say the footballer, 28, would have been "deeply unconscious" during the crash.www.bbc.co.uk