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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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Igula said:
Appealing to authority, especially when we don't know if Jose even wants him as the primary back-up or just knows that there is no other option is a very weak argument.
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Not as weak as you ignoring what we do know.

Comparing it to TAA, who Cirkin has shown zero similarities to, is weak as well.
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I've not compare any of the players tho.... I'm comparing Klopp's attitude towards young players to yours.

Liverpool who just added a FB cover despite having much better FB's than we do
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I alluded to the "last 2 years" - not this coming season.

Read properly!!!

Also the same Liverpool that had Milner who had shown his ability to play FB for them in big games.
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A midfielder? Not a "specialist FB".

Again, read properly.

If your best arguments are the Jose might rate the player (with zero evidence of this) and TAA did it, it shows how weak your argument is. Nothing about what Cirkin has actually shown in his play, nothing about the actual player just hopes and wishes based on another player with nothing similar other than age and the hopes that a manager might like a guy and might be right.
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....Your argument here is merely you don't want him played because he hasn't been played.

Mine is:

A) I trust the manager's judgement over yours.
B) If Klopp had your attitude TAA would not have had the opportunity to explode in the EPL as an 18 y/o.
 
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Airfixx said:
Not as weak as you ignoring what we do know.



I've not compare any the players tho.... I'm comparing Klopp's to your attitude towards young players.

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I alluded to the "last 2 years" - not this coming season.

Read properly!!!



A midfielder? Not a "specialist FB".

Again, read properly.



....Your argument here is merely you don't want him played because he hasn't been played.

Mine is:

A) I trust the manager's judgement over yours.
B) If Klopp had your attitude TAA would not have had the opportunity to explode in the EPL as an 18 y/o.
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Except Klopp's attitude isn't any different than mine. He didn't throw TAA into the starting line-up he waited until the kid had shown his ability in lower level games then brought him into the line-up.

I have zero issue with Cirkin playing in EL/Cup matches, I have him included in my starting 11 for those matches when talking about them earlier this summer.

My argument is that we should be concerned that Cirkin is the only LB option outside of Davies. If people aren't concerned about that then they are being willfully ignorant. If Jose is not concerned about that then he is not doing his job.

Going into the season with a 18 year old player that has played 0 PL games as the only back-up option is risky. There is nothing wrong with being concerned about it.

Try to spin it anyway you want and do your normal BS switching the argument and making up stuff people did not say when anyone raises a legitimate concern with the team, but that will do nothing to change the FACT that Cirkin as the only back-up at LB is concerning.
 
ArcspacE said:
And here’s the usual ENIC come back - go and follow ‘x’ then.. Yawn

Errr.. - how about the owners go and fuck themsleves in their greedy thieving cunts and put the club and its history of cup trophies ahead of massive profits
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It's one of the most childish arguments I've ever heard.

It's like me saying to Sammy go and follow Burnley then if you want underwhelming signings.

People need to grow up a bit so we can have a proper debate.
 
Igula said:
Except Klopp's attitude isn't any different than mine. He didn't throw TAA into the starting line-up he waited until the kid had shown his ability in lower level games then brought him into the line-up.

I have zero issue with Cirkin playing in EL/Cup matches, I have him included in my starting 11 for those matches when talking about them earlier this summer.

My argument is that we should be concerned that Cirkin is the only LB option outside of Davies. If people aren't concerned about that then they are being willfully ignorant. If Jose is not concerned about that then he is not doing his job.

Going into the season with a 18 year old player that has played 0 PL games as the only back-up option is risky. There is nothing wrong with being concerned about it.

Try to spin it anyway you want and do your normal BS switching the argument and making up stuff people did not say when anyone raises a legitimate concern with the team, but that will do nothing to change the FACT that Cirkin as the only back-up at LB is concerning.
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Sessingyon ?
 
Igula said:
Except Klopp's attitude isn't any different than mine. He didn't throw TAA into the starting line-up he waited until the kid had shown his ability in lower level games then brought him into the line-up.

I have zero issue with Cirkin playing in EL/Cup matches, I have him included in my starting 11 for those matches when talking about them earlier this summer.

My argument is that we should be concerned that Cirkin is the only LB option outside of Davies. If people aren't concerned about that then they are being willfully ignorant. If Jose is not concerned about that then he is not doing his job.

Going into the season with a 18 year old player that has played 0 PL games as the only back-up option is risky. There is nothing wrong with being concerned about it.

Try to spin it anyway you want and do your normal BS switching the argument and making up stuff people did not say when anyone raises a legitimate concern with the team, but that will do nothing to change the FACT that Cirkin as the only back-up at LB is concerning.
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Jeeesus..... You're just blowing hot air..

Sess played at LB in the EPL.... We also have Rose in emergencies.

We have FOUR LBs. FFS.
 
Airfixx said:
Jeeesus..... You're just blowing hot air..

Sess played at LB in the EPL.... We also have Rose in emergencies.

We have FOUR LBs. FFS.
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But as we have talked about before the team has shown zero interest in playing Sess at LB. Even against Ipswich Town he was used as a LW.

Rose has talked about not wanting to play for the club again, I know he has since changed his tune now that he realizes that he has no other option doesn't change the fact it is highly unlikely he ever plays for the club again. He past actions seem to be the exact kind of thing that Jose hates in a player. I have my doubts Jose has him in his line-up, if Rose is even here at the end of the transfer window- which again I highly doubt that he is.

So the 4 LBS FFS is just more BS from you because you can't handle that there are legitimate concerns with this club.
 
Igula said:
But as we have talked about before the team has shown zero interest in playing Sess at LB. Even against Ipswich Town he was used as a LW.

Rose has talked about not wanting to play for the club again, I know he has since changed his tune now that he realizes that he has no other option doesn't change the fact it is highly unlikely he ever plays for the club again. He past actions seem to be the exact kind of thing that Jose hates in a player. I have my doubts Jose has him in his line-up, if Rose is even here at the end of the transfer window- which again I highly doubt that he is.

So the 4 LBS FFS is just more BS from you because you can't handle that there are legitimate concerns with this club.
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You're bemoanig a lack of back up at LB.

That's the bullshit right there.

We have a #1.
+ 2 LB with EPL experience if required.
+ 1 LB that jose has praise for that I expect to see more of inbthe cups.

Rose: He said he had unfinished business and hoped to play here again actually. I'm against it but you're wrong regardless.
 
Airfixx said:
You're bemoanig a lack of back up at LB.

That's the bullshit right there.

Rose: He said he had unfinished business and hoped to play here again actually. I'm against it but you're wrong regardless.
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So you think that Jose will play Rose or Sessegnon as the back-up LB?

There is zero indication that either is true and plenty of reasons to believe that neither will see a game in the PL for Tottenham at LB.

If your big defense against people's concerns about our LB situation is that we have Sessegnon and Rose I think that only strengthens the concerns we should all have about the LB spot.
 
Airfixx said:
You're bemoanig a lack of back up at LB.

That's the bullshit right there.

We have a #1.
+ 2 LB with EPL experience if required.
+ 1 LB that jose has praise for that I expect to see more of inbthe cups.

Rose: He said he had unfinished business and hoped to play here again actually. I'm against it but you're wrong regardless.
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Sorry caught the edit late.

We do not have a #1, Davies is not a #1 quality LB, he is terrible.
 
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