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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread
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Least of all cos the chavs have no reason whatsoever to sell him.
Now Pedro & Willian have gone they don't have much depth on the wings.... CHO will be next in line to the 2 main starters in a busy season.
My favourite was the commentator to scared to say Gazzaniga properly. If he was backed into a corner and forced to say it, it came across as "Gazza-nee-ha".
You have been asked the question plenty of times but ducked the answer.
Given that Aurier was always going, who is better but younger and at a modest cost
Doherty to me looks like an upgrade as he doesnt have Aurier's errors - and being HG when Aurier leaves it frees up another Overseas trained player place (and we are short of overseas trained player places).
Agree. I just hope Ndombele doesn’t end up reaching the level of DeBruyne after Jose fucked him.
Ahhh I just realised the stats I mentioned are compiled over the last two seasons, he is second only to Trent in chances created for that. People have said since Traore pushed on this season dominating the whole right flank it has hindered Doherty’s output.
He actually comes inside and behaves like a second striker occasionally if you watched him a lot this season. He seemed to be performing better in 18/19 when his remit was to stay wide right from what I can remember.
Either way I get your point, I don’t think it’s “smart squad building” but I think he is an upgrade on aurier I really do, even if it’s only for 2 seasons. We just need a capable understudy to be signed if not this window then the next.
To be honest all 3 of those signings I'm not that bothered about. I think Werner and Ziyech are overrated. I'd much rather Kane and Son. Or even Son and Bergwijn.
I would also choose Ben Davies as a better defender than Chilwell. Going forward Chilwell is better so maybe slight better overall. But certainly not the greatest defender and can be got at if a winger runs at him.
Tbf, Tanguy fucked himself.
Ndombele, that report, what you didn't see on TV and his Mourinho relationship
The France international did not play a minute of the game against West Ham and reports soon emerged about his relationship with Jose Mourinho
Not sure I'd agree that Davies is a better defender than Chilwell, and I rate Davies.
Chilwell is a true left-footed left back who can defend at the PL level and is also a big offensive threat going forward. That might be the single hardest thing to find in football, that's a really valuable commodity.
He's the best of the three signings for me. He obviously makes Chelsea a better team on day one, which is not clear of the others. Havertz would be another level though.
In this market is 16m cheap for a 28yo mid table RB ?
I amended the radar just to show just PL last season comparison. Aurier definitely more tangibly/quantifiably creative. Doherty better progressing stats, but part of that is that all Wolves do is whack the ball from the defensive third to the attacking third, makes progression stats look better IMO.
Gwan Matty boi
Non-homogenised Doc, or get rid of all the fat (if Homogenised, the process damages the delicate fats rendering them very iffy for many) IMO.
Full Raw Guernsey A2 was my last hurrah with animal milk,
Sarr made Chilwell look silly defensively at the back end of last season. Before Chilwell scored a worldie.
But yes Chilwell is the best signing of the 3
I've answered this question many times, there aren't many RB's out there who I'm in love with right now, but I'd still rather have one that's younger, has some scope, and can retain some inherent value, who we won't be struggling to get off the payroll in two years time, than an older one I don't love much either.
If we are selling Aurier for 20m Eur, then why not spend 15m Eur and get Hakimi - another who's played as a RWB but has also played as a RB.
Back up option, Atal is a player, like Doherty, who's been used predominantly as a RWB, but is much quicker than Doherty. Would almost certainly cost less/same and is about 4 years younger.
I really don't see Doherty as much of an upgrade on Aurier generally. And I say that as someone who doesn't like Aurier loads.
A homegrown 28 year old that has been one of the best performing RWB/RB’s in the league over the past 2 seasons? Yeah I would say anything under £25million is cheap when you consider chilwell went for double that and I don’t rate him that highly.
Just my opinion though of course, there hasn’t been all that much movement outside of Chelsea so it’s hard to gauge prices.
Fair enough but you're comparing potential risks to PL proven.
for the fee it's a no brainer. klostermann or mukiele would be 40 plus mill.
You're focusing to much on the negatives there are some good reasons to sign Doherty.
He may not be a true worldy but Doherty is young enough to play two seasons and still have resale value, sure that's finance not football, but when spending 20m that matters.
Mourinho likes playing a back five, he likes having full backs who are not only capable of going forward, but offer a genuine goal threat, and at the same time are disciplined in defence especially at set pieces ... Doherty is a step up on Aurier in all three of those areas.
Sure a younger version, TAA for example, would be better but he's valued at 100m and Liverpool aren't selling, the list of other experienced quality EPL attacking RB's is very short Kyle Walker, Wan-Bissaka, maybe Pereira, then Doherty is probably next on that list.
We do need to develop a couple of young RB's but right now if Aurier is going (and even if he isn't) we need a ready made player and Doherty is one of the few options available.
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Hakimi has already signed for Inter for 40m (more than twice what Doherty will cost), so not an option.
Atal has had a serious knee injury, so might not be the same player, plus Doherty got the same amount of goals and assists last season as Atal has in his entire senior club level career, most of which Atal scored and assisted as an attacker, not a RWB. That's before you add in PL experience (a big plus with our fixture congestion early on) and HG status.