So only you can selectively apply your silly logic when it suits you and serves your agenda - got it
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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Public forum fella.
And I said “one of the most offensive”. Some serious competition out there.
It’s lovely you’ve turned over a new leaf, but maybe give other posters less grief when they challenge you and understand we all have different ways of communicating. Unfortunately for you, not everyone is going to suddenly switch to being prim and proper just because you’ve decided to be less abusive.
So, in your opinion, we should be perfect so far this season? Otherwise, he’s inept?
I take objection to the one of the most offensive tags. Have I had run ins with some people? Sure. Did I eff and Jeff at them? Sure. Was it often in response to their initial rudeness? Sure.
Did I at times have a go at people and use uncool language? Sure.
Am I proud of it? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
In a lot of cases, I have either publically or privately, apologised and spoken to the people involved.
Nowadays, I am happy to challenge anyone back when they challenge me and hopefully, I'm doing it in a more appropriate way...I'm sure you've read some of the back and forth recently.
I will continue to keep my new resolution but also I think sometimes people may not realise how abusive they are until it's pointed out.
No. Sometimes the other team get some luck.
Sometimes (hate to admit it) the other team are better and play better than you.
Sometimes the managers tactics and subs are spot on and we still lose thanks to the above 2 reasons.
My issue is those 3 or 4 games we've had recently, where we are one nil up or more, and you can (as an amateur spectator) see things going wrong.
So why can't he? He's an accomplished, acclaimed manager, paid a literal fortune, with years of experience and nous so why, IN SOLELY THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, does he not make changes in tactics or personnel? (Apologies for caps but I wanted emphasis and can't do italics on mobile)
In those instances, given his experience, his lack of action makes him inept.
Ps to clarify: definition of inept is having or showing no skill; clumsy.
I think some posters think it means absolute rubbish and dreadful which it doesn't
(The example Google gives is: the referee's
Inept handling of the match! Lolz)
I think there’s an element of this, but also due to the quality of football on display, which won’t be to everyone’s taste. And it’s not always to my taste either.
But my expectations when he took over were that it would take time to build the team and squad to suit the manager and that we wouldn’t immediately be streaking away at the top of the table, pumping all comers 5-0.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of fans have the notion that the teams near the bottom of the table are always there for the taking, even when we see other sides like Liverpool and City often struggling. Man Utd are the exception to this and seem to find it easy to win against the wee teams, but can’t buy a win against anyone near the top. I think where we find ourselves is about right and can see the strategy we are deploying coming good in the mid to long term. I am a Jose fanboy because he’s our manager. I’d be a Wenger fanboy if he took over. I just want to give my support to whoever is here, trying to win us games and trophies.
Look, until you get it in your head that most of us want to support this manager because we can clearly see that this team is getting us closer to the destination where many have tried and died, you will continue to get battered.
That you cannot see it, for all your reasons, which you have a right, should not be a reason to disturb our peace with your constant ignorant and non factual statements. We park the bus boo hoo. Show me the possession stats from the last ten games and you’ll find that just maybe you’re talking bollocks.
Whenever you playing style moaners regurgitate whatever rubbish you have read other club’s supporters spout and have been asked to produce simple facts, it’s been crickets from you.
My good sir, you may be Spurs, just like your lineage, but I don’t have to sit next to you or allow you ruin my own experience FFS.
Jose will be gone when his time is up here, just like every other manager before him. Any Spurs fan that isn’t excited and doesn’t have fingers crossed for a long awaited trophy, which is fair enough as that’s their prerogative, can fuck off from trying to ruin it for the rest of us.
Kisses.
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Should just go to Specsavers. Easy.
Some fair points and the quality of the football is a huge part of it for me and other fans i know. If the football was better and we'd had the exact same results i suspect he would be cut a lot more slack. The bigger problem for me though is Mourinho, in a 20 year career has never built anything, again if we'd appointed a younger manager you'd likely be a bit more tolerant but Mourinho is a results now manager, its why he was appointed. If it isnt great now will it ever be? His history suggests not, all his best work has been in his first 2 years at any club. I think anyone thinking he is going to build a dynasty over 3, 4 or more years are burying their heads in the sand. He will fall out with all and sundry eventually. If you scratch beneath the surface you can see it in the fact he was quite happy to bin Ndomebele until Levy vetoed it and now Alli, who the club seem reluctant to let go. It just wont be sustainable as he burns through goodwill like paper. We are where we are and i'm happy to see how the season plays out but as a club we have to think longer term as well sometimes.
Maybe all the small teams just don’t rate Gollum and end up getting pumped, whereas every bastard trains harder when we are about because it’s Jose and they eye a big scalp?
Most Madrid fans would seriously disagree with this sentence. Florentino Perez would be the first.
And Chelsea fans, if they were honest, as well. The group of players built by Jose in his first spell won titles for them for 5 or 6 years after he was gone. Even Antonio Conte got most of Jose´s players one year after his third Premier League title with them (in his Chelsea´s second spell) - they were champions again.
His real short term work was at Inter, where he already got a group of very experienced players - Maicon, Samuel, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Stankovic, Chivu, Cordoba (Figo, Crespo)... They were all there before Jose arrived.
COYS
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He is a results manager, yes. And so far this season, he hasn’t failed. We were in four competitions at the start and are still in them now. I’d suggest that’s success. And this is the only fact we can garner from what’s happening over his tenure.
As for dumping Ndombele and now being unhappy with Dele, that is pure speculation on your part. Both scenarios are very possible, but we don’t know. Maybe nobody was going to bin Tanguy, we instead worked with him to get him to a place where he was able to perform to his best. Maybe the club want to sell Dele, but Jose has said no, as he might feel there’s a player there that he can use in the future. We just don’t know.
We’ve tried so many managerial strategies over my 40 years supporting the club, it’s just not funny anymore. We’ve gone English, foreign, young, old, ex player, up and coming, flavour of the month and rarely have any had us in a cup final and as close to the top of the league at this stage of the season.
As you’ve said, the season has plenty to run and let’s both hope I’m proved right and you aren’t when the end comes.
Im a Mourinho fanboii when we do the quadruple you can all fuck off
I think one thing that he can be given credit for is the lack of key injuries so far this season. With coronavirus screwing up the schedule and pre-season most managers are going into the unknown and those that rigidly stick to their normal training sessions might see more injuries whilst the more flexible get away with fewer.
With a possible 66 games this season (thanks to the bye in the league cup) there is a very high chance that we will fall off a cliff at the end of season when the games are most important. If Mourinho can keep the team playing near its best he will deserve some praise for this
With a possible 66 games this season (thanks to the bye in the league cup) there is a very high chance that we will fall off a cliff at the end of season when the games are most important. If Mourinho can keep the team playing near its best he will deserve some praise for this
United have stumbled to wins against Fulham, WBA and Burnley in the recent weeks haven't they?
The Premier League really is the most competetive in the top leagues of Europe. Spain and Italy are a joke really, especially with H2H coming before GD. France is a one horse race most years. And we have teams bottom of the league beating the champions.
When people talk about the quality of football, can they really, hand on heart, truly tell me that every game under Poch was the opposite?
Can they say, with a straight face, that we didn't often play 90 minutes of turgid, unwatchable, safety passing football doing absolutely nothing?
Can they say, with a straight face, that we didn't often play 90 minutes of turgid, unwatchable, safety passing football doing absolutely nothing?