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Manager Jose Mourinho
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Well the evidence is there with Ndombele and Alli as he didn't/isn't picking them, sometimes not even on the bench. We saw in the Amazom doc Levy stepping in. Its happened at all his other clubs as well so there is some substance to it. We have tried all other approaches before i would agree and that also includes appointing a proven winner with a difficult personality and a reputation for boring football. George Graham won us a trophy after 5 months in charge. Was it worth 2.5 years of that football? Its a resounding no from me. I truly hope we make top 4 and win a trophy this season, the club has to be in the champions league regardless of manager but equally even if we do, it doesnt mean i would have particulaly enjoyed it if the football remains the same.
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The last 12 months were poor to watch. The team was running on empty and we seemed out of ideas. I'd say from September 15 to May 18 it was largely excellent, not every game of course but the vast majority. I enjoyed that period more than any other since the mid 80's.
I also find the concept that he was ready to dump Tanguy odd. I remember there being rumours around Son being shipped out after his first season, and look how that turned out. Inevitably when a new player is not firing on all cylinders, in their first season, then there will be newspaper (made up) talk of them leaving. In reality, no club worth their salt invests that much money in a player, and sacks them off after a single season, generally.
Big second half to the season upcoming. I hope (doubt) that we may get to see some of it in person, and I'm chomping a the bit to give the team some support from the side lines, if I get the chance.
Big second half to the season upcoming. I hope (doubt) that we may get to see some of it in person, and I'm chomping a the bit to give the team some support from the side lines, if I get the chance.
I would say the first season was pretty average.
The last 12 months were very poor for large swathes but not entirely
There were 2 seasons where I thought, save for a bad ending when we finished 3rd when we could have won it, we were excellent.
I would say overall, there were some great memories but those good/great performances have blurred peoples perception of what often happened.
Tonight should be a reminder - we very nearly went out of the FA Cup to Wycombe
Poch was amazing and I LOVED the football under him but can't shake the nagging feeling that with multiple finals and semi finals we should have ended up with silverware under him. Why that didn't happen is complex I think - some poor in game management and lack of spending by the board at crucial times.
No doubt the first season was a stepping stone, you could see something happening but we were inconsistant. Those 3 seasons in between were great to watch though. Anyone can pick out some games when were below par, the majority were great to watch. I also enjoyed Redknapps 3 seasons but 15 to 18 were better.
Not getting any closer though tbh..Look, until you get it in your head that most of us want to support this manager because we can clearly see that this team is getting us closer to the destination where many have tried and died, you will continue to get battered.
That you cannot see it, for all your reasons, which you have a right, should not be a reason to disturb our peace with your constant ignorant and non factual statements. We park the bus boo hoo. Show me the possession stats from the last ten games and you’ll find that just maybe you’re talking bollocks.
Whenever you playing style moaners regurgitate whatever rubbish you have read other club’s supporters spout and have been asked to produce simple facts, it’s been crickets from you.
My good sir, you may be Spurs, just like your lineage, but I don’t have to sit next to you or allow you ruin my own experience FFS.
Jose will be gone when his time is up here, just like every other manager before him. Any Spurs fan that isn’t excited and doesn’t have fingers crossed for a long awaited trophy, which is fair enough as that’s their prerogative, can fuck off from trying to ruin it for the rest of us.
Kisses.
I always find it amusing when people talk of 'good' football like if there is some universal standard. There is none.
It's a matter of taste - each person has his own preference. I have always hated the 'total football' style of play and prefer more direct and quicker attacks but also enjoy a stifling defence with incisive counter attacks.
I enjoyed the Capello and Sacchi AC milans (particularly when they beat Barca in the CL finals). I Iiked Mourinho's Inter's display against Barca (both semi final games). Of course, the great pitch slide at old trafford and the look on SAF and my ManU friends when Porto knocked them out was epic!
Looking at Mourinho's teams, I liked his Madrid, Porto and Inter but not the 2nd Chelsea and ManU (first Chelsea was 50/50). For me the difference in styles had more to do with the players he had than Mourinho himself.
People often describe Mourinho as a defensive manager who plays ugly football. I see him as a manager who likes to build his team based on a solid defence, prefers a quick and direct attack, and prioritizes results over style.
It's a matter of taste - each person has his own preference. I have always hated the 'total football' style of play and prefer more direct and quicker attacks but also enjoy a stifling defence with incisive counter attacks.
I enjoyed the Capello and Sacchi AC milans (particularly when they beat Barca in the CL finals). I Iiked Mourinho's Inter's display against Barca (both semi final games). Of course, the great pitch slide at old trafford and the look on SAF and my ManU friends when Porto knocked them out was epic!
Looking at Mourinho's teams, I liked his Madrid, Porto and Inter but not the 2nd Chelsea and ManU (first Chelsea was 50/50). For me the difference in styles had more to do with the players he had than Mourinho himself.
People often describe Mourinho as a defensive manager who plays ugly football. I see him as a manager who likes to build his team based on a solid defence, prefers a quick and direct attack, and prioritizes results over style.
Good football is winning games to me.
I'd rather watch us beat City 2-0 with 25% of the ball and use it brilliantly, than lose 0-1 to Newcastle at home with 85% of it and do nothing useful for 90 minutes.
Yes, I'd like us to have 85% and win handsomely and that will happen sometimes. But I'd rather set traps making ourselves look bad and take advantage that huff and puff against a brick house.
I'd rather watch us beat City 2-0 with 25% of the ball and use it brilliantly, than lose 0-1 to Newcastle at home with 85% of it and do nothing useful for 90 minutes.
Yes, I'd like us to have 85% and win handsomely and that will happen sometimes. But I'd rather set traps making ourselves look bad and take advantage that huff and puff against a brick house.
These Jose fans and their reasons for hope are all a bit "I saw Allahs name/Jesus' face on my toast it's a miracle".
We park the bus against relegation fodder and scrape a draw whilst creating fuck all, "fantastic defence, on our way to becoming champions".
We park the bus against relegation fodder and scrape a draw whilst creating fuck all, "fantastic defence, on our way to becoming champions".
We haven't scraped draws in most of those games, though, have we?
Should have won handsomely against Newcastle, West Ham, Fulham and Palace.
In case your maths isn't all that, +8 points where our attack, not our defence, let us down, and we're top.
So we should have won handsomely in all those games yet at the same time our main scorers are heavily outperforming their xg. How does that work?
We should have sustained pressure and mounted more attacks instead of creating a situation where we need to rely on unprecented levels of clinical finishing. Then players like Kane and Son can even afford to miss more chances but score more like regular strikers in non embarassingly negative systems.
Do you really believe your seeing something that anti-Jose Spurs fans and the rest of the world can't?
Happy Birthday to the greatest manager that still manages
for all the negativity spouted here, we , and manchester city are the only 2 clubs in England who are still competing in every front btw and yes that's including the league , there are still 20 matches to play
Pundits pick for top 4.
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I don't see anyone predicted top 4 for Spurs & if my memory serves me right, very few posters here also predicted top 4 for us.
How is Mourinho underperforming?
Premier League predictions 2020-21: BBC Sport pundits pick their top four - BBC Sport
We ask 25 BBC pundits to predict who will win the Premier League title, who will finish in the top four, and who might break into the top six.
www.bbc.com
How is Mourinho underperforming?
Because somehow we ended up top for 25 days and now the expectation has changed lolPundits pick for top 4.
I don't see anyone predicted top 4 for Spurs & if my memory serves me right, very few posters here also predicted top 4 for us.Premier League predictions 2020-21: BBC Sport pundits pick their top four - BBC Sport
We ask 25 BBC pundits to predict who will win the Premier League title, who will finish in the top four, and who might break into the top six.
How is Mourinho underperforming?