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Management In search of Mourinho's successor.

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How is Jose supposed to end 13 years of losing mentality in a year ? He still didn’t have a full season. Why the media said Lampard, Arteta, Ole, guardiola, all needed time. Klopp losing to Burnley and Brighton is not even talked about. But people want him gone already ? I am saying let him finish his contract and see what happen. Worst thing can happen is we are still trophyless after his full stint which isn't problem at all as we have already used to it.
 
Poch should have been well aware of the transfer budget of the club and shopped accordingly.

Sissoko was 27 and had played 3 seasons in the PL before we bought him. There was liitle uncertainty about what we would be getting. Wijnaldum was a year younger but we passed on him.

This is what WIjnaldum said: "I met Pochettino when I left Newcastle. I just felt Liverpool wanted to come to an agreement quickly."

So why did we pass on £25m Wijnaldum but paid £30m for Sissoko (both sold by Newcastle in the same summer).

But wait, the following year, we spent a record £42m on Sanchez and gave £50m to PSG for Aurier and Moura. You dont spend a record £42m on an unproven CB from Eredivisie and the PSG duo were not unknown quantities.

We needed a rebuild cos Poch bought these players for much more than they were worth. If even two of those players had been starter quality, the squad quality wouldnt have been as bad as it became.

But Levy is guilty of shafting Poch by not trusting him with a rebuild of squad that Poch mismanaged?There is enough blame to go around for our bad transfers and Poch deserves his share. He was not a victim but was part of the problem.
Jesus Christ man.

Do you really think the fact we weren’t able to come to an agreement quickly for Wijnaldum was Pochettinos doing? Or the money we did or didn’t pay for transfers? Pochettino was the coach, he had nothing to do with finances.
 
How is Jose supposed to end 13 years of losing mentality in a year ? He still didn’t have a full season. Why the media said Lampard, Arteta, Ole, guardiola, all needed time. Klopp losing to Burnley and Brighton is not even talked about. But people want him gone already ? I am saying let him finish his contract and see what happen. Worst thing can happen is we are still trophyless after his full stint which isn't problem at all as we have already used to it.
But to continue as we are might see us lose our premiership status at this rate in the future.
 
For me it has to be Harry until end of season. For all the shut about “run around” we actually played some great stuff. We beat Wigan 9-0, bar codes 5-0 and many other games. He just needs to motivate the players and give the players confidence. He”ll defo tell them they are better footballers than the current manager would have them believe ! The players must think they are League 2 standard having to play this shite of defending all the tine. This guy is a fraud can’t say it enough said it in the other topics. He. Just makes good players look crap exactly what was said in his last spell at Chelsea. Remember this is the count that left RM to come back to his first love Chelsea after being sacked by them a few years prior. Never trust him his a mercenary. End of season go for Rodgers or any of the other foreign coaches every one has me think but please no defensive coach playing the sane shite.
With all due respect this is bonkers. Harry was good for us but things have move on.
How is Jose supposed to end 13 years of losing mentality in a year ? He still didn’t have a full season. Why the media said Lampard, Arteta, Ole, guardiola, all needed time. Klopp losing to Burnley and Brighton is not even talked about. But people want him gone already ? I am saying let him finish his contract and see what happen. Worst thing can happen is we are still trophyless after his full stint which isn't problem at all as we have already used to it.
A clear difference between Jose and the managers you’ve mentioned is the shite football we play.
 
Poch should have been well aware of the transfer budget of the club and shopped accordingly.

Sissoko was 27 and had played 3 seasons in the PL before we bought him. There was liitle uncertainty about what we would be getting. Wijnaldum was a year younger but we passed on him.

This is what WIjnaldum said: "I met Pochettino when I left Newcastle. I just felt Liverpool wanted to come to an agreement quickly."

So why did we pass on £25m Wijnaldum but paid £30m for Sissoko (both sold by Newcastle in the same summer).

But wait, the following year, we spent a record £42m on Sanchez and gave £50m to PSG for Aurier and Moura. You dont spend a record £42m on an unproven CB from Eredivisie and the PSG duo were not unknown quantities.

We needed a rebuild cos Poch bought these players for much more than they were worth. If even two of those players had been starter quality, the squad quality wouldnt have been as bad as it became.

But Levy is guilty of shafting Poch by not trusting him with a rebuild of squad that Poch mismanaged?There is enough blame to go around for our bad transfers and Poch deserves his share. He was not a victim but was part of the problem.
You aren't going to get every transfer right though. Nobody cares about Liverpool not getting Keita and Oxlade-Chamberlain right. City and Chelsea have had numerous bad deals. Poch got a lot more right than he got wrong otherwise our improvement under him wouldn't have been what it was.

Yes we should have bought Ricardo Pereira instead of Aurier (that's not hindsight talking), but Davinson and Lucas looked like excellent acquisitions in their first 12-18 months.
 
But to continue as we are might see us lose our premiership status at this rate in the future.
What status mate ? Big six ? Is that so important to held on ?
With all due respect this is bonkers. Harry was good for us but things have move on.

A clear difference between Jose and the managers you’ve mentioned is the shite football we play
That's an opinion , but even the managers you've mentioned played dross football occasionally as well , they are still being given time and money. Levy ain't fool , sacking jose will cost him 20m and there is no guarantee his replacement can do better anyway, rather stick it out and see what happen
 
Jesus Christ man.

Do you really think the fact we weren’t able to come to an agreement quickly for Wijnaldum was Pochettinos doing? Or the money we did or didn’t pay for transfers? Pochettino was the coach, he had nothing to do with finances.
He told us this himself. I am just the coach, I am not the manager.

And Jose also backed it up when talking about Bergwijn.

And AVB, love him or hate him, said exactly the same regarding the magnificent 7
 
I'm gonna throw a name out there just for the hell of it.

We won't get him. He is unproven in the PL. But I've always been a huge admirer of his management.

If you want to go back to a young, English or UK based squad that plays good football then Steve Cooper is up there. The job would be perhaps to big for him to come to us. He is an unknown but he's got Swansea top of the championship. Won England the U17 World Cup.

If Swansea come up I'll be looking very keenly on how he gets on with them in the PL.
 
He told us this himself. I am just the coach, I am not the manager.

And Jose also backed it up when talking about Bergwijn.

And AVB, love him or hate him, said exactly the same regarding the magnificent 7
And Poch also backed it up when talking about Sissoko.

“Daniel probably thought ‘maybe Mauricio can get him playing well.’” Were his words, or something to that effect. And this comment was made before Sissoko had made an appearance for us, so it’s not like it was an arse covering exercise from Poch.
Sissoko was 100% not a player Pochettino actively wanted the club to sign. Yet he is constantly used as a stick to beat him with, with the usual “but Poch spent 30 million on Sissoko.”

It just boggles the mind.
 
El Magnifico desperately clinging on to the idea Jose is a mastermind with talent and a winning mentality

Face it buddy, he's a chequebook manager and nothing else. He's not even the best at that. At least Pep's teams attack.
 
And Poch also backed it up when talking about Sissoko.

“Daniel probably thought ‘maybe Mauricio can get him playing well.’” Were his words, or something to that effect. And this comment was made before Sissoko had made an appearance for us, so it’s not like it was an arse covering exercise from Poch.
Sissoko was 100% not a player Pochettino actively wanted the club to sign. Yet he is constantly used as a stick to beat him with, with the usual “but Poch spent 30 million on Sissoko.”

It just boggles the mind.
The "car washers" stoop to new levels every day to protect their man. It's now bordering on obscene.
 
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And Poch also backed it up when talking about Sissoko.

“Daniel probably thought ‘maybe Mauricio can get him playing well.’” Were his words, or something to that effect. And this comment was made before Sissoko had made an appearance for us, so it’s not like it was an arse covering exercise from Poch.
Sissoko was 100% not a player Pochettino actively wanted the club to sign. Yet he is constantly used as a stick to beat him with, with the usual “but Poch spent 30 million on Sissoko.”

It just boggles the mind.
I really don’t think Poch had much control over who we sign. Levy is too much of a control freak to let Poch do what he wants.
 
How is Jose supposed to end 13 years of losing mentality in a year ? He still didn’t have a full season. Why the media said Lampard, Arteta, Ole, guardiola, all needed time. Klopp losing to Burnley and Brighton is not even talked about. But people want him gone already ? I am saying let him finish his contract and see what happen. Worst thing can happen is we are still trophyless after his full stint which isn't problem at all as we have already used to it.
I won’t even be following football in 18 months at this rate. Fans will stop watching if this keeps up. It’s torture.

And if you honestly think the worst thing that can happen is still being trophyless, then you don’t understand much. The players will lose 18 months of opportunity to learn real football from a different manager. The culture will be toxic for 18 more months.

No one will sign extensions for this. And the only way they would agree to one would be a gross overpay meaning we are stuck in Woolwich’s situation. Players will just run out their contracts. We will have to replace them but won’t have a huge budget. This manager hasn’t shown he can win on a budget for 17 years.
 
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This post epitomizes all that's wrong with our fan base and why we probably deserve everything we're getting right now.
We refuse to acknowledge what our previous manager achieved and throw all the shit at him rather than the owners who tied his hands for 18 months and gave him a 5 year net spend budget less than Huddersfield and Crystal Palace.

Poch wanted what's best for our football team, Levy wanted what's best for our profit margin and we throw all our weight behind the latter!!!!

The idolatry afforded to this non football liking hard nosed businessman who recently made the Forbes rich list off the back of OUR football club and Pocchetinos heroics is nothing shy of nauseating.
The real problem is people like you who try very hard to make Poch look blameless - he was not. You dont spend club record amounts on Sissoko and Sanchez and get to walk away spotless.

Levy has his faults but so also did Poch (more so in the absence of a sporting director). Each of them contributed their share to the problem.
 
Jesus Christ man.

Do you really think the fact we weren’t able to come to an agreement quickly for Wijnaldum was Pochettinos doing? Or the money we did or didn’t pay for transfers? Pochettino was the coach, he had nothing to do with finances.
The quote by WIjnaldum, referenced his discussion with Poch not Levy i.e. he didnt feel the same level of enthusiasm he got from Liverpool when he spoke to Poch
 
A manager like Mourinho with that pedigree and history should have one complete season from start to finish before getting the axe. I don’t like his style of play, but it is only reasonable to see what he can do with a full season.
No it isn’t. Stop putting previous reputation over current performance. If things don’t look to be developing well they just aren’t.

this is the logic that made people want to give Soldado until the end of the earth but write a young Harry Kane off as the 2nd coming of Lee Barnard
 
You aren't going to get every transfer right though. Nobody cares about Liverpool not getting Keita and Oxlade-Chamberlain right. City and Chelsea have had numerous bad deals. Poch got a lot more right than he got wrong otherwise our improvement under him wouldn't have been what it was.

Yes we should have bought Ricardo Pereira instead of Aurier (that's not hindsight talking), but Davinson and Lucas looked like excellent acquisitions in their first 12-18 months.
But Liverpool didnot get it wrong with Both VVD and Alisson. Sissoko and Sanchez never looked like they were worth the club record fees paid.

When a manager gets it wrong with two consecutive club record signings, people should not be surprised when the person signing the cheques tightens his grip on the wallet
 
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