There were very few superstars in the team that best us 4-0 on aggregate in the CL last season, in fact there were some decidedly average players. But everyone in that team knew what they were doing and believed in what they were doing, and they played with attacking intent. They had about three chances in the first couple of minutes in the first leg as I remember.
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There were very few superstars in the team that best us 4-0 on aggregate in the CL last season, in fact there were some decidedly average players. But everyone in that team knew what they were doing and believed in what they were doing, and they played with attacking intent. They had about three chances in the first couple of minutes in the first leg as I remember.
Why tonight would Mourinho substitute Vincious for Son at half time? We were pressing much better with two strikers. It's the old mentality where he wants to counter attack it never works. We keep hurling the ball upfield losing possesion. Basically inviting them back into the game.
He's just like my ex - never takes the blame and is always passing it on to anyone else in the vicinity!
What about when they got absolutely spanked by United?
He’s just not the right fit for us, he’s used to managing clubs of a different profile, different financial clout and different type of playing squad. At his previous clubs the expectation was to win the biggest trophies and he was given the money to deliver that. His confrontational and pragmatic style worked with more experienced players whose personality was closer to his. We are too soft, too naive and too skint to achieve anything with him. I understand why Levy took the punt but it’s not going to work.
Our soft, naive players needs a different type of manager. They still aren’t ready to compete at the highest level and Mourinho is not a manager who can deal with that. We need to find another Poch who can deal with the squad as they are and make them better, not get upset when Sanchez and Rodon can’t reach Terry/Carvalho level. The players do not enjoy playing and that is when you know the manager has reached the end.
Our soft, naive players needs a different type of manager. They still aren’t ready to compete at the highest level and Mourinho is not a manager who can deal with that. We need to find another Poch who can deal with the squad as they are and make them better, not get upset when Sanchez and Rodon can’t reach Terry/Carvalho level. The players do not enjoy playing and that is when you know the manager has reached the end.
Maybe downing tools is harsh, let me word it better.
I think the players lost motivation under Poch after the CL final and I also think the way we are run as a club probably doesn't give the players the impression the club is serious about winning big trophies.
Bringing Jose in was a gamble, one that I think Levy thought would change the mentality of these players and the club, a serial winner, someone known to win the big trophies, I don't think the logic behind the appointment was bad.
However, I think these players think Jose is past it, I think that is very apparent and I think after watching him make poor tactical decisions time and time again and failing to play to our strengths have made the players doubt his ability and the consequence of that is also damaging the players confidence because of poor results.
So, when I say they have downed tools I don't mean they are doing so in a disrespectful manner, more so in a manner that they are just completely fed up with their workplace.
So long story short, our players are soft.
It's a two- way street. Three way if you include Levy.
That's much clearer and I pretty much agree entirely - except that I thought the logic at the time to appoint Jose was off, that CL final team needed rebuilding, it wasnt the last season at WHL team that was on the verge of being one of the greats - that team could be argued as being one which needed the final push. That's before you question whether Mourinho was even the man to provide that push after the way his United and Chelsea jobs petered out...
Yes and many players we have had over the last 25+ years or so have had the same gutless attitude.
Totally agree - the blame has to be split between management, players, recruitment and the board.
All need to step up their game significantly and quickly, otherwise it's just going to get worse.
That’s been apparent since 2015/16 and 2016/17 amongst the large core of players from that time that are still there. Serious clear out needed.
They spammed us completely. Jose had no master tactical plan.
Don't know about that, I thought he had shifty eyes!He was relentlessly handsome though, so maybe he deserved one.
Fick what they did with manure anyway didn’t they then knock them out this season if you want to play that game.
Come on Mrs P, don't act like you wouldn't accompany him on the Dakar rally, if you know what I mean.
This is probably the biggest change in football over the time Mourinho has been a manager and what his approach cannot, seemingly, overcome - multiple teams are set up and coached well, do their homework on opponents and are drilled to play in a way that gets the best out of them, just setting a team up to let the good attacking players do their thing does not work anymore, especially not in tye PL where there's more money than anywhere and there are good coaching teams up and down the league
When you look at the players and coaching going on at Liverpool and Man City they blow us out of the water. Considering where we and Liverpool were respectively 5 years ago, it's embarrassing.
Let's put the stadium to one side for a moment: in terms of club size vs how we're being run, I'd say it's currently a fight between Woolwich and ourselves for fucking up the most.