If he isn't sold then they have to offer him a new contract or lose him on a free. I think it makes sense to sell him, no hard feelings but I don't see him getting another 3 years at Spurs.
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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread
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Because KWP sucks.
Why would we want to bring in another RB that clearly isn't close to good enough? Maybe as a back-up to fill the HG and club trained spot but as a first choice RB he is way to scared, way too awful defensively and he doesn't offer anything in attack.
He's capable of a good game going forwards, yes. Sometimes he's quite useful going forwards. But he's an absolute liability at the back. Is he actually capable of having a good game at the back? In crucial games, he always mucks it up at the back. Always. He's an accident waiting to happen. It's stressful watching him, because you know he's going to trip someone up outside the box and then they score a goal from a free-kick. He's one of the leakiest holes in our defence.
I'd give Doherty another season, because sometimes it takes time to warm into a team. Not everyone gets going straight away....
Aurier as a back up is a terrifying thought. He has shown to have a terrible attitude even when getting first team minutes I would hate to see what he is like when is clearly 2nd choice.
He may, and I stress may, be better than Doherty but I would much rather Doherty if we are keeping one of them as the back-up. If we did move to a back 3 Doherty might actually be ok as a back-up behind a new first choice RB.
He may, and I stress may, be better than Doherty but I would much rather Doherty if we are keeping one of them as the back-up. If we did move to a back 3 Doherty might actually be ok as a back-up behind a new first choice RB.
It's all kind of been one big transaction in that area of the pitch.
OUT
Walker - 50MM
Trippier - 20MM
Wanyama - Free
Dembele - 11MM
Vertonghen - Free
KWP - unwanted so exchanged for PEH
Total : 81MM
IN
Ndombele - 55MM
Sanchez - 42MM
Aurier - 23MM
Doherty - 14MM
PEH - 15MM plus KWP
Total: 149MM
NET: 68MM plus KWP
In a vacuum, that's the kind of business a club in our position should be very happy with, we spent a healthy sum of money and targeted prime-age players at positions of need, while moving on older ones and recouping a healthy amount of money to supplement our investment.
But none of those three positions is a success.
Ndombele and PEH are better players than two players who are physically shot and exiled to the ends of the earth in Wanyama and Dembele, but they aren't giving us what those players did during their prime, and at considerably higher cost.
Sanchez is a total scouting failure who has left adrift the position he was meant to galvanize for a decade.
And my god, we've paid money to get worse at RB where Walker left our price range, but where Trippier and KWP could still be here and are a million times better than Aurier and Doherty at a younger combined age. An utter disaster.
That's just really really bad to spend all that money and get so much worse and less reliable at every position involved in the transaction. The vast majority of our recent decline is right there.
He's better than Aurier. He's had a pretty decent season at Southampton. And he loved the club. He wanted to be there when he was with us. That is good for team spirit and unity. That's the sort of thing that made us great under Poch. You don't have to be the best to be good for a team. Also, he never got a chance over a season to show us what he can do. Maybe he'd be a very useful RB.
His mate sissoko needs to follow him out the door ASAP. Two for one PSG?
He has shown with us and Southampton that he is scared in defense. He does his best to be invisible and rarely makes the necessary tackles. The only area he is better in than Aurier is not making the dumb mistakes. Outside of that he is equally terrible defensively and cannot cross a ball.
He is fine as a mediocre bottom half RB for Southampton but for a team that wants to get top 4 he is not close to good enough. Not a single one of Liverpool, United, City, Chelsea would consider him for their first team, we should not just because he played for us as a youth.
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We also have to stop thinking about this new guys is better than X crappy player we have and start thinking if they are good enough to get us to top 4.
I think Sissoko deserves a bit more respect. He battled a really hard first season with lots of criticism to have a really good couple of years. He earnt my respect. It may be time for him to move on now, but I don't think he's the biggest problem we've had recently. He works hard at what he does... we've lacked players around him bringing the quality that they used to 2 years ago.... He spends half his time covering for Aurier when he plays now...
I wish people would stop posting these kinds of lists - it makes me feel ill to look at just how bad our transfer business has been in the last 5 years. Absolutely criminal
We'll always have the two cup final memories of him I guess.
To be honest, this alone is enough for me.
I'd take him back on that basis alone. I haven't watched him enough to have a full opinion, which is why I think he should have got a full season with us - then we'd all have more of a clue. He might not be the best RB in the country... idk. But when I saw him on the few occasions I did, he was forward going and useful in attack. He got a couple of assists and crosses. Was very decent. All defenders make mistakes, but if he makes fewer than Aurier, I think that would be better.
Some are serial disagreers. Newcastle are nowadays a decent shout for a lesser-priced player, tbf. Not sure about Saint-Maximin - never seen the finished product, but nothing a good coach couldn’t fix, I would hope. Doubt they’d let him go cheaply, tho.
Wasn't there some sort of informal agreement with Lyon that if we got Ndombele, we would let Andersen sign for them?
Personally I like Andersen and think he'd be a good signing.
Saint Maximin is a good watch on the pitch and opposition players find it extremely difficult to get the ball off him when he has possession (very much like Moussa Dembele)
I personally think he would be a fantastic signing for Spurs but can’t see Newcastle letting there prize asset leave on the cheap would maybe offer up Sissoko and maybe Lamela or Jack Clark to try and push a deal through (this summer there will be tonnes of player exchanges because of covid)
I would use this opportunity to get rid of some of the shit in our team.
A younger option is Tarem Moffi of Lorient this lad is going be big time and is like a mixture of Mbappe with that raw pace to burn and Riyad Mahrez with the silky skills plus he is a real precision finisher.
Let’s not try and pretend we have a well thought out transfer strategy .
No idea. I never heard that one before. Did anyone else go for Ndombele that summer - by anyone else I mean a club of equal or higher standard ?
Sissoko is one of the many problems within our squad.
He is a very poor footballer and needs to go asap along with the rest of the shit-
Aurier Ndombele Sanchez winks Lo Celso Alli Doherty and Dier would be a good start.
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