Because if they were black, there's much less reason to assume racism.
Did I have to explain that.
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Did I have to explain that.
Karl went off the deep end with that.
It was when someone called me a sexist for calling out Patel and involved my mom in the discussion for me daring to talk about racism that really elevated the discussion imo lmao.
Unfortunately it's only one side of the spectrum that acknowledges there is racism whilst the other denies it in all cases and makes excuse after excuse for blatant racism.
Whilst spouting this blatant dogwhistle racism themselves...
Notice you aren't denying it either.Ahab & PooPoo cheering them on I'm sure.
Every human being has the capacity to be racist (or any other form of bigotry). There's no distinction between who dishes it out and who receives it. Yet you make the claim otherwise, that's why.
In the specific case of Rashford, Saka & Sancho (all black men) I've not witnessed a single comment from anyone on here or for that matter in the media that those dishing out the abuse were of a specific ethnicity. Until now by you!
Totally agree.
What is confusing is the definition of racism. An unknown perpetrator writing fuck and shit on a Rashford poster was reported as racially aggravated vandalism. Speculative.
If Kane had missed he would have got absolute pelters from all and sundry. Nobody would have questioned whether if it was black England supporters racially abusing him.
A comedian making unfunny (but statements of fact) Tweets that the white players scored but black players missed their pens has led to him being cancelled.
By making every single thing have racial connotations has actually deflected from the real message.
100%.
It is the fear of having an actual open discussion and that is a big societal issue.
We know racism exists. We know it probably will always exist and we know it's in nearly all of us.
How to shift to reality and stop feigning disgust ?
If people on here are really surprised by what's going on then that is real ostrich territory and not being true to oneself. And it has zero to do with being woke or any other cobblers.
Do you believe the comedian was making some kind of public service announcement?
Much like that Aussie news platform; what do you think the point of bringing the players' ethnicity into it was about? .....What was his/their motivation?
Why should it otherwise matter what their skin colour is?
5 players took pens, 3 missed..... Why the need to profile them in such a way?
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You might have missed this post https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/racism-in-football.513/page-62#post-2956384
I agree the 'comdian' was stupid the Tweets unnecessary. No argument. But what he said was a statement of fact. Can you imagine the law trying to prosecute? Judge 'what are you here for'? 'i said the white players scored their penalties and the black players missed'. Judge 'what actually happened' 'the white players scored and the black players missed'. Judge 'case dismissed'.
Pretty sure that saying 'I'm sorry that black guys are bad at penalties' is a) a gross generalisation and b)a pretty blanket racist statement'.
If I said that white guys suck at basketball, I would rightly be slammed for it.
So it would make no difference in the public perception if the vandalists were black or white? Stop point scoring.
He missed it intentionally.
He will completely ignore this as he always does when he gets caught out.
Do you honestly think Black players are as a "statement of fact" worse penalty takers. Or do you think he took their colour and turned it into a racist jibe. They were English penalty takers first and last. As well you know. The tweet was and is racist the defending of the tweet at best misguided.
Sounds like an idea for a film.
I've not framed it as innocent stupidity though....
Again I ask; what was the motivation for his comments?
(See
cretinousgoat
post above for what was actually said.....)He didn't 'merely' state a fact though......
I promised myself not to check this forum after yesterday's events but couldn't help myself. Utterly utterly depressing to read through it all. As a man with black children it's difficult to truly convey how much trauma is caused by events such as yesterday, then when you come on here and see the mental gymnastics some will go to to maintain the status quo it's exhausting. Imagine if you could only divert that level of effort into actually being anti racist rather than risk causing upset by playing whatever game it is you think you are playing (be it playing devil's advocate, being anti communist, or something more sinister). Also, some of the arguments on here I can dispel from actual lived experience as a result of having a black partner and black children - few of you can possibly say the same, so maybe rather than battering away at your keyboard perhaps take some time out to consider if your efforts could actually be better served helping other people rather than yourself?
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