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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

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We have signed more than enough "viable" strikers, Soldado, Janssen, Pav, Bent, and the like being just a few.

I'm not sure of your point given what I said.....

Point is there's no denying the fact that 80m is an awful lot of dosh to spend on a secondary striker that may not even fit the remit of playing alone when required.

Like I suggested.... IF Kane goes then it's a different decision.


Levy must have learned his lesson by now and surely Paratici understands that we need to spend on a player to compliment Kane but if he is destined to move then a couple of fit for purpose strikers and not players that are up and coming or as cheap as chips.

Soldado, Pav & Bent weren't cheap punts........

Even Jansen was a calculated punt (crazy goalscoring rate!) that was 18m in pre-Neymar money.

That boat should have sailed long, long ago.

Your post seems to overlook the fact that I said I thought Vlahovic may be the better option as a #2 (and explained why)...... He'd still cost 60m; so still not a cheap punt either.
 
In the end, it's not just down to the scouts as the ultimate decision lies with the manager - Pochettino in this case. And managers also watch the players and scrutinizes scouting analysis.
However much I fancy Pohettino (and I would have taken him back this summer) I have to say that his transfer record is rather so so...
Yes, had some really good hits: Son and Toby. Dele and Kierran were also good purchases. And I'd say, for the price, of £5m, Dier for while wasn't bad either, nor were Moura and Davies.
Wanyama got his career wrecked by injuries. He was a monster while he lasted.
Spurs recovered the money from Wimmer, and Foyth, And Llorente "got" Spurs into the CL semis.
Gazzaniga joined on a free and was a big hit....among the female supporters 😁 He was ok, but never pushed Lloris for his starting spot.
Vorm did a decent job too as a backup goalie and did a job with the youth apparently.
Pau Lopez never played for Spurs in that 1season but 2 seasons later he was sold by Betis to Roma for €23.5. I bet that one hurt Levy in his pockets.
Yedlin, Stambuli and Fazio were cheap acquisitions BUT they were brought in to strengthen the starting XI. Which they didn't.
Sissoko's been a solid player and played regularly for 3 managers but he cost £30m! Not his fault that Spurs were desperate enough to pay that fee.
N'Jie and Nkoudou were total flops.
The jury is still out on Sessegnon and Clarke.
However, when he managed to get Levy & Lewis to open the "purse" his record is poor. None of the big purchases were anywhere near what was expected of them.
Janssen. 2 goals in 32 games. At least Spurs got £10 back for him.
Lo Celso, has lots of potentials, but he arrived injured and has remained so for 2 seasons. He can still become an excellent signing, so the jury is still out on him...
Sanchez has never really taken to life in the EPL. At £42m this is something Pochettino & co. should have been able to anticipate.
Aurier. He's got talent yes but not the mental focus.
Ndombele.If he's had to the fighting spirit of Wanyama or Dembele he'd be a world-class player. But it's really really poor scouting when the world knew that he had an attitude problem; it was very well known. Why on earth did they still go ahead???

I know that retrospection is a wonderful thing.... but, while Pochettino was at Spurs .... they missed out on huge bargains like the players mentioned below. One would expect that Spurs at least have gotten 1 or 2 of these players. Leicester got 5 of them.

Mahrez – Le Havre to Leicester in 2014 for £500,000
Kante - Caen to Leicester in 2014 for £5,6m
Van Dijk - Celtic to Soton in 2015 for £10m. Spurs had watched him.
Ndidi – Genk to Leicester in 2017 for £17m
Salah – Chelski to Roma 2016 for £15m (I doubt Chelski would have sold him to Spurs anway); Roma to Liverpool in 2019 for £36.5m (rising to £43m)
Robertson – Hull to Liverpoor 2017 for £8m
Maguire - Hull to Leicester in 2017 for £12 (rising to £17m)
James Maddison – to Leicester 2018 for £20m


So, overall, when considering the players Pochettino spent big money on and the player he "missed" out on, I'd say he was rather poor. But he did "miracles" for Spurs still result-wise, and Spurs - for a while - played maybe the best football in the EPL.

Great coach, motivator, lacking an eye in the market, that sets aside Ferguson and the like, plus he was shit at squad turnover, grizzling instead of forcing the situation by pushing players onto the market. But he's young.
 
All but the bullshit seems to have gone quiet. What are the most realistic prospects?

Tomiyasu?
Vlahovic?

Everything else seems like pipe dreams (i.e. other stuff has to happen first).

Any reliable word on a mid? Or is it Sissoko and Winks next season?

Donfabulation seems to be able to conjure stuff up, so I'm hopeful we'll have at least one surprise.

Martinez is going to move. People are focusing on Inter's money problems, which is fair.

No one is really talking about him only having 2 years left on his deal. Why would he sign an extension with a club that can't pay him.

If Inter hold on to him, they could lose him for even less next year.
 
I'd rather we get the cheap option and plough the money into some new exciting real estate opportunities

#realfan

NFL ✅
Golf ✅
Boxing ✅

I've been wondering.... Are there strong commercial opportunities in curling?

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Is Martinez 80m good?

When talk started this was supposedly a 60m deal.... We're creeping into seeeerious dosh levels here! ....Unless Kane goes it doesn't seem viable.

I think I'd rather get Vlahovic for his growth potential and ability to be a viable back-up ST (which we need regardless)..... On the occasions we decided to dabble with 2 up front we could just drop Kane a bit deeper behind him.

Kane
Vlahovic
Son

.....Seems like a nice mix to me; knowing that we can supplement Sonny with Gil on the left (esp. as his his strength seems to be trad wing-play anyway.
Goddamn, had long answer typed out and deleted. I'll not repeat it, but essentially :

Euros makes it look a bit bigger... So Lautaro at €77m = £65m, and Vlahovic at say €62m = £52m. That'd be my guess on what the clubs will sell for this summer.

Hard to go wrong tbh, I think both are class. Martinez easier to fit in a front three with Kane and Son, Vlahovic has it in him to become a world-class goalscorer. Kane and Vlahovic in a front two with Son RM and Gil LM I'd love to see. If Kane is sold, Vlahovic probably the physical presence I'd want up top, but more evidence of Lautaro being a high level player. If Kane stays I figure we'll end up with somebody underwhelming in the 10-20m bracket.
 
Sanchez is a naturally better defender than dier, but I feel dier is probably a bigger personality in the team..... although I won't be too dissapointedpointed if either leave
I think Sanchez in particular could benefit from Toby now being gone. You're right about Dier though which is why I see him and Romero being the 2 this year.
Martinez is going to move. People are focusing on Inter's money problems, which is fair.

No one is really talking about him only having 2 years left on his deal. Why would he sign an extension with a club that can't pay him.

If Inter hold on to him, they could lose him for even less next year.
He's definitely going but where is the question. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen now to us
 
Goddamn, had long answer typed out and deleted. I'll not repeat it, but essentially :

Euros makes it look a bit bigger... So Lautaro at €77m = £65m, and Vlahovic at say €62m = £52m. That'd be my guess on what the clubs will sell for this summer.

Hard to go wrong tbh, I think both are class. Martinez easier to fit in a front three with Kane and Son, Vlahovic has it in him to become a world-class goalscorer. Kane and Vlahovic in a front two with Son RM and Gil LM I'd love to see. If Kane is sold, Vlahovic probably the physical presence I'd want up top, but more evidence of Lautaro being a high level player. If Kane stays I figure we'll end up with somebody underwhelming in the 10-20m bracket.

(As per subsequent post; would Vlahovic be better as a lone ST / back-up ST as required... I suspect yes.)

We're bubbling around 0 net atm (see Rom loan)... I'd like to think with a modest kitty (*) and some more sales we can rack up 80-100m

Vlahovic 52m
Tomiyasu 20m

Do-able IMO.

If Kane goes.....

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Yikes.... I wonder how much of an over-payment it would take to drag their prize asset away...?

PEH (whom I like) & JWP (whom I'm underwhelmed by) = S'otons midfield from 2019/2020..... If that's the answer; we're asking the wrong question.
His price tag will probably be absurd being he is English and has 4 years left on his contract.

We've been linked with a shit load of DMs and a couple 8s in the past couple days, so it's possible the Sissoko leaving rumors are closer than we realize. Winks should just go to Everton but he's going to end up staying.
 

Ok, so earlier I did call for more MFers but...NOT THAT ONE!!!! I said robust, athletic, and technical. He fits none of these. Cue the FIFA boys chiming in about the odd set piece he may score while you suffer the rest of 89 minutes of his limp presence.

RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK is this one of those MFers you say is out there? This one give you the horn?
 
His price tag will probably be absurd being he is English and has 4 years left on his contract.

We've been linked with a shit load of DMs and a couple 8s in the past couple days, so it's possible the Sissoko leaving rumors are closer than we realize. Winks should just go to Everton but he's going to end up staying.

I think if he can bag a starting spot somewhere credible enough to get a look in with Sarfgate; he'll move.
 
Sorry, but that's BS. You could make a list pretty much the same and just as long of poor signings for nearly every club. Including for the clubs who snapped up those, you say, we missed out on. Signings are by definition hit and miss, because players are humans, not 1's and 0's
So by that logic Spurs - as a club and the fans - should be happy that our expensive players didn't deliver what was expected from them and our scouting system missed out on "obvious bargains" - because it happens at other clubs - and keep going like before without striving to improve nor learn from past mistakes... :rolleyes:
But obviously, you are happy with mediocrity :cool:
By the way, I leave it up to you to make lists about other clubs
 
Denis Zakaria is a rangier, fitter and quicker version of Tanguy Ndombele.
Fitter when he's physically fit, yes. But he's struggled with injuries.
Besides, they are very different in style.
PS! It doesn't take much for a top league player to be fitter than Ndombele :cool:


 
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