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Ex-Spurs Player Emerson Royal

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We needed a RB and didnt buy one till the deadline day and ended up buying a mostly unproven player for a lot of money.

The one on our radar at the beginning of the window was "mostly unproven" and cost a decent wedge too.

Sounds a bit panicky.

Evidence says we spent the entire window choosing one(*).

(*Specific criteria TBC)

.....Just because peeps have got it into their head all of a sudden that he doesn't fit Conte's magic system; that doesn't mean we bought a crap player (worth remembering Conte wasn't even manager when we bought him either).
 
The one on our radar at the beginning of the window was "mostly unproven" and cost a decent wedge too.



Evidence says we spent the entire window choosing one(*).

(*Specific criteria TBC)

.....Just because peeps have got it into their head all of a sudden that he doesn't fit Conte's magic system; that doesn't mean we bought a crap player (worth remembering Conte wasn't even manager when we bought him either).
Hes not a completely crap player or anything. But to spend all summer choosing and wait till the last day only to overpay for unproven players, its just poor work. Not that much better than 'choosing' Nuno after faffing around all summer. Paritici really has to up his game, so far not so good.
 
Evidence says we spent the entire window choosing one(*).
LOL - absolute bollox!

Where is the evidence we spent the entire window scouting Emerson? He was a last minute panic buy like Sissoko and other shitters before him. Nothing good comes on deadline day 99/100 times. Levy fucked up again and everyone has seen it now
 
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Did you just TAA a playmaker?

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He's leading the league in assists and key passes, so yeah I called him a playmaker. Not sure why that's controversial?

He has 41 PL assists in the last four seasons. He's one of the most creative players in the world by any known way of describing playmaking and creativity.
 
He's leading the league in assists and key passes, so yeah I called him a playmaker. Not sure why that's controversial?

He has 41 PL assists in the last four seasons. He's one of the most creative players in the world by any known way of describing playmaking and creativity.
He’s a RB - not a playmaker. KDB is a playmaker and plays in that position in the middle of the park . TAA is a wingback who’s good at crossing the ball to talented players in front of him
 
He’s a RB - not a playmaker. KDB is a playmaker and plays in that position in the middle of the park . TAA is a wingback who’s good at crossing the ball to talented players in front of him
Then why's he the best at doing things that playmakers are supposed to do?

In modern football, playmaking comes from all over the pitch. Since the 2018/2019 season, Robertson and TAA have a combined 78 league assists. In the same period, I tabulated every single assist registered by a Liverpool midfielder including Henderson, Fabinho, Jones, Keita, Thiago, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, and Lallana. Every Liverpool midfielder over 4 seasons has a combined 39 assists, half of what TAA and Robertson have.

TAA and Robertson are Liverpool's playmakers, much more so than their midfielders. Clear in the assist numbers. Our numbers will likely eventually be similar, if Conte gets WBs that can play his style.
 
Then why's he the best at doing things that playmakers are supposed to do?

In modern football, playmaking comes from all over the pitch. Since the 2018/2019 season, Robertson and TAA have a combined 78 league assists. In the same period, I tabulated every single assist registered by a Liverpool midfielder including Henderson, Fabinho, Jones, Keita, Thiago, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, and Lallana. Every Liverpool midfielder over 4 seasons has a combined 39 assists, half of what TAA and Robertson have.

TAA and Robertson are Liverpool's playmakers, much more so than their midfielders. Clear in the assist numbers.
Football isn’t played on Twitter stats

Kane had many assists last season - still remains a striker. Playmaker is a completely different position on the field and does not rely on assists only - those 2 are very good wingbacks that’s all.
 
Football isn’t played on Twitter stats

Kane had many assists last season - still remains a striker. Playmaker is a completely different position on the field and does not rely on assists only - those 2 are very good wingbacks that’s all.
I'll write to the relevant football authorities and alert them that noted forum football genius ArcspacE ArcspacE believes that assists (!!!!!) are a useless twitter stat that should be eliminated and are not related to creativity or playmaking on the football pitch. There will be a lot of paperwork to be done, but they should get back to you in 5 to 7 business days with the deletion of assists from the history of football.

Also, you noted that that "playmaking does rely on assists only", paging sammyspurs sammyspurs I think old Arcy has been won over by your passionate defense of the pre-assist. It seems he thinks it's even better than the assist to indicate quality playmaking. Pre-assist is in the ascendance!
 
I'll write to the relevant football authorities and alert them that noted forum football genius ArcspacE ArcspacE believes that assists (!!!!!) are a useless twitter stat that should be eliminated and are not related to creativity or playmaking on the football pitch
No they absolutely aren’t - look at Modric for example
 
Also, you noted that that "playmaking does rely on assists only", paging sammyspurs sammyspurs @sammyspurs I think old Arcy has been won over by your passionate defense of the pre-assist. It seems he thinks it's even better than the assist to indicate quality playmaking. Pre-assist is in the ascendance!
Wrong guy, I think a pre assist is simply a pass, that’s why there is no one who counts them except some guy that made a video about Messi 5 years ago, Opta did it for the top players in Europe a year ago as a one off article and apparently some computer game where you have to swish the Outsider and he’ll tell you all the pre assist stats for all Spurs players since the PL began…….oh and R Soccer has some list.
Can’t forget R Soccer.
 
No they absolutely aren’t - look at Modric for example
So let's get this straight, what you're saying is that getting an assist is not a creative play and if you get an assist, you cannot be a playmaker? Modric has four assists this year, is he still qualified as playmaker or is that too many assists?

On the other hand you said a playmaker must play in the center of the field. Hojbjerg plays CM and has two assists, is he a playmaker based on location? Or is two assists disqualifying? I'm very confused here.
 
So let's get this straight, what you're saying is that getting an assist is not a creative play and if you get an assist, you cannot be a playmaker? Modric has four assists this year, is he still qualified as playmaker or is that too many assists?

On the other hand you said a playmaker must play in the center of the field. Hojbjerg plays CM and has two assists, is he a playmaker based on location? Or is two assists disqualifying? I'm very confused here.
A wingback cannot be a playmaker - that’s all. That’s a different position in the middle of the park
 
A wingback cannot be a playmaker - that’s all. That’s a different position in the middle of the park
Disagree. A playmaker, quite literally, is anyone who makes the play… or put slightly more eloquently, creates for the team. Usually a number ten or a midfielder of course, but there are forwards who make play (Sheringham, Berbatov, Henry, Kane, etc), wingers/ widemen (Ginola, Waddle, Beckham, Figo, Robben, Messi), and, due to how the game has evolved with them now being so responsible for attacking play, fullbacks and wingbacks too. All in my worthless opinion of course.

Early examples of the playmaker full back can be found in Cyril Knowles, Maldini (pre centre back days) and Cafu, all of whom could run a grant fromthat position, as TAA regularly does.
 
.....Just because peeps have got it into their head all of a sudden that he doesn't fit Conte's magic system; that doesn't mean we bought a crap player (worth remembering Conte wasn't even manager when we bought him either).

It ain't magic, just very specific. Our wing backs play incredibly high up the pitch and thus need to have the technical ability of your average winger. Hence why he's converted the likes of Perisic and Moses there, wide players who have an engine, win 1 on 1's and can cross. Other successes are the likes of Hakimi who are practically right midfielders.

Maybe I and others are wrong, and Emerson does possess the attributes to succeed there, but suggesting that in our system the RB/LB have to be more able in certain areas is very reasonable and completely true. Emerson isn't crap, but thus far he's struggled to do what Conte RWB's have done in the past, and that's at least a little worrying.
 
He‘s only been here a few months and is still young so I’m not going to write him off completely yet, but he’s been really poor tonight. Always wants to take an extra touch, gives the ball away too easily and his crosses either go straight to the opposition or are hit too long.
 
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