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Supporters The Y Word
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Before I kinda knew what Baddiel was all about and his mate Skinner the football show they hosted imo was one of most dreary boring shows on tv, but I was in the minority cos most of my mates thought it hilarious, so! But in adulthood reading all about Baddiel and his opinions he‘s a c@#t and Skinner is not far behind.
No disagreement here, But this issue isn't really about Baddiel.
Remember years back shouting sheep shaggers at visiting Norwich fans. A friend asked if we shouting sheep shearers. Silly deaf bastard he was.
My point. Amongst the noise you can pretty much shout what you want
So I’m going to start shouting Jid Army next time I’m at a game.
Sounds reasonably like Yid Army. And is also absolute nonsense if I ever was pulled up in court about it.
Although the urban dictionary makes it out to be about homeless people. Which I’m not. But I do support them in their cause.
“Jid = A wash that is done in a public restroom, typically by homeless people, using a sink. The wash is done typically shirtless”
I also have this as written proof to back me up I was not using the Y word or saying anything remotely political in case I’m accused of shouting out Jihadi.
Which could open up a whole new can of worms if we start singing that en masse.
My point. Amongst the noise you can pretty much shout what you want
So I’m going to start shouting Jid Army next time I’m at a game.
Sounds reasonably like Yid Army. And is also absolute nonsense if I ever was pulled up in court about it.
Although the urban dictionary makes it out to be about homeless people. Which I’m not. But I do support them in their cause.
“Jid = A wash that is done in a public restroom, typically by homeless people, using a sink. The wash is done typically shirtless”
I also have this as written proof to back me up I was not using the Y word or saying anything remotely political in case I’m accused of shouting out Jihadi.
Which could open up a whole new can of worms if we start singing that en masse.
The only thing guaranteed is that all the Yid based songs/chants will be sung louder and prouder than ever before at the Wolves game on Sunday.
Whatever ones views on the subject this particular genie is well and truly out of the bottle and there will be no putting it back……
Whatever ones views on the subject this particular genie is well and truly out of the bottle and there will be no putting it back……
season ticket not getting renewed next season
The atmosphere with the day trippers and the way football is going has made me feel like this for a while but this is the final nail in the coffin for me
Not being able to say a word that is part of my heritage, that isn’t offensive in its original meaning, because Chelsea fans moaned about it, is just so ironic it’s untrue
They’re the ones that took that word and made it negative in the first place
Being a Jew I loved the fact that my race and football team had a link, that I was welcomed in and protected from genuine racists since I went to my first game aged 7, that fellow fans would stand up for me wether they were Jewish or not, and we could all share something.
I’ll continue to use the word at the ground for the rest of the season, if I get banned or fined or whatever for it, I’ll take legal action against the club, who are they to tell me, as a Jew, what I can and can’t say
Then I’m done, let the day trippers spend their money there, I’ll watch on tv and remember the good times I had growing up, standing in the park lane, of what was a true football stadium, no light shows needed, no retractable pitches, just 30 odd thousand people sharing something every week
RIP Spurs and RIP Football
The atmosphere with the day trippers and the way football is going has made me feel like this for a while but this is the final nail in the coffin for me
Not being able to say a word that is part of my heritage, that isn’t offensive in its original meaning, because Chelsea fans moaned about it, is just so ironic it’s untrue
They’re the ones that took that word and made it negative in the first place
Being a Jew I loved the fact that my race and football team had a link, that I was welcomed in and protected from genuine racists since I went to my first game aged 7, that fellow fans would stand up for me wether they were Jewish or not, and we could all share something.
I’ll continue to use the word at the ground for the rest of the season, if I get banned or fined or whatever for it, I’ll take legal action against the club, who are they to tell me, as a Jew, what I can and can’t say
Then I’m done, let the day trippers spend their money there, I’ll watch on tv and remember the good times I had growing up, standing in the park lane, of what was a true football stadium, no light shows needed, no retractable pitches, just 30 odd thousand people sharing something every week
RIP Spurs and RIP Football
I hope you will be sharing that with the club in a scathing letter.
I'm not Jewish, but I think Spurs fans should move on from using it when fans of other clubs like Chelsea stop using gas chamber hissing noises and when hypocrites like David Baddiel admit as much.
Baddiel is the kind of cunt to do black face on public TV and make "jokes" about having sex with 14 year olds and then has the audacity to speak up about racism like he's some kind of gandhi figure.
Such a monumental prick.
Such a monumental prick.
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It is partly about him. He has been instrumental in painting a false picture of this issue, I'd go as far as to say spreading deliberate and malicious lies.
People who don't know the the context often get their first introduction through him, it immediately puts us on the back foot. We're defending against accusations of racism, not being presented as an inspirational example of standing against racism.
I'm sure there are Jewish Spurs fans who agree with him, and some were never all that excited about the use of yid, as it can come across tokenistic, or insincere (I think for a lot of us, it has nothing to do with Judaism, it's just what Spurs fans call themselves), or bringing undue attention to them when they'd rather just watch a game of football. Unfortunately, Baddiel has made it so that it has indeed become too racially charged for Jewish Spurs fans, and they'd prefer we all just shut the fuck up.
I can sympathise with that, but unless I've missed some crucial info, I can't accept Baddiel or any Spurs fan's view that it's racist.
Front Wheel Skid is Cockney rhyming slang for Yid.
Why don't we just call ourselves the Skids? Skid Army?
Still Jewish but rhymes with Yid. Meets all the criteria.
Why don't we just call ourselves the Skids? Skid Army?
Still Jewish but rhymes with Yid. Meets all the criteria.
I finished that survey, and told them clearly and politely what I thought - for example that the meaning of words changes according to context, and that people being offended by words because they fail to understand the context is unfortunate, but can't practically become a way to run society or no one will be able to say anything.
I gave the (albeit somewhat flippant) example on an earlier page (not in the survey obviously!) - if my dad suffered so badly from claustrophobia that it caused him to take his own life, could I go to Anfield and insist that "You'll Never Walk Alone" is banned because it offends me, irrespective of the context in which it is being sung? Why is it different? Is there a minimum number of people that (allegedly) need to be impacted / offended before it 'matters'? What is that number?
And btw this isn't just about 'that word', it's about a cultural shift in everything we are allowed to do and say. Personally I fear for the future of the world, and am so damn thankful that I don't (and won't ever) have any kids.
I very much doubt any of that will be taken onboard. You would have been directed to tick various boxes that show you "understand" how offensive it is and that's why they have a score of around 96% in the survey. You can't complete it without either saying you find the word offensive and want it banned, or you're a racist an d should be ashamed of yourself because it is racist.
This has everything to do with free speech. We all know where this is heading - there are a hard core who will still sing it - and they will therefore have to be arrested charged and banned. Once the stadium becomes a safe space for the eternally offended, away fans will then find something else edgy and taboo to get a reaction. It's all too predictable.
Yeah a know but thought I’d share my thoughts about him
Remember, football is now a no-fun zone.
Stay sitting down (unless you're buying food and soft drinks), don't sing, and thanks to VAR you don't even need to celebrate any more.
And be sure to enjoy the concourse.
Stay sitting down (unless you're buying food and soft drinks), don't sing, and thanks to VAR you don't even need to celebrate any more.
And be sure to enjoy the concourse.
This, above all else is the thing that is most likely to make me give up the season ticket I waited so long for.
That actually is a bloody good idea . You could see that catching on if needs must