We sung it in France
And we sang it in Spain
We sang in the sun
And we sang in the rain
They made us stop it
And that was a joke
The thing they love most is being a Woke.
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Supporters The Y Word
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We sung it in France
And we sang it in Spain
We sang in the sun
And we sang in the rain
They made us stop it
And that was a joke
The thing they love most is being a Woke.
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But now the club has officially asked its supporters to stop using the "Y-word". And I just don't agree. They quoted some research they did, surveying fans' views. I straight away burrowed down into the data of what the Jewish respondents said. And it turns out that 36% of them ‘regularly’ chant, 30% ‘occasionally’ chant and 34% choose not to chant the term. That's 66% who are in favour of the Yid Army.
What of the 34%? Well, only 35% of those, i.e. 12% of the total, feel offended by the chants. So, you have 88% of Jews who are totally ok with the chants, and 66% actively enjoy them.
But now the club has officially asked its supporters to stop using the "Y-word". And I just don't agree. They quoted some research they did, surveying fans' views. I straight away burrowed down into the data of what the Jewish respondents said. And it turns out that 36% of them ‘regularly’ chant, 30% ‘occasionally’ chant and 34% choose not to chant the term. That's 66% who are in favour of the Yid Army.
What of the 34%? Well, only 35% of those, i.e. 12% of the total, feel offended by the chants. So, you have 88% of Jews who are totally ok with the chants, and 66% actively enjoy them.
Sorry you had to go through all that mate, people are fucking idiots
I hope you at least felt like being accepted at spurs, as a yid, not a Jew, or a Muslim, or a Christian or a Buddhist, but a fucking yid
Something they’re trying to take away from us now
Your consumption is about to be massively controlled and reduced (unless you are apparatchik) and you will not complain.
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I personally don’t chant it because I don’t identify with it, but equally I very much enjoy the unity created when it is chanted and I very much agree with the reasons why we chant it.
Until it becomes a criminal offence, which it literally can’t unless they change the law on what constitutes a racially or religiously aggravated offence across, there is no way to prevent it’s use in this context, and nor should there be.
Until it becomes a criminal offence, which it literally can’t unless they change the law on what constitutes a racially or religiously aggravated offence across, there is no way to prevent it’s use in this context, and nor should there be.
They needed victims to negate the intent.
That is why ENIC makes a survey effectively gaslighting the fans.
And that is what Baddiel willingly (as a non Spurs supporter) delivers.
Only 12% of Jewish respondents actively dislike the chant. Does anybody know how many of the 23k were actually Jewish?
Exactly. The next step will be blogs, videos and media evidence of jewish people who are deeply distressed and cannot go to games. Or physical attacks on jewish people will be 'linked' with our club. Step up BBC. Just watch.
This survey sounds like a load of absolute bullshit
They need to hire an independent company to stand outside the ground on a match day and maybe email all members and season ticket holders
No leading questions
Just maybe ‘what religion or race are you’ and ‘do you find the word offensive’ amongst others
They need to hire an independent company to stand outside the ground on a match day and maybe email all members and season ticket holders
No leading questions
Just maybe ‘what religion or race are you’ and ‘do you find the word offensive’ amongst others
When you say 'they', do you mean the club? How would that suit their agenda?
Just in the interest of fairness, as you say, if they arrange it themselves they can effectively end up with whatever majority answer they want
AKA The TFC anthem!
I think it's a strong possibility that this weekend it will be almost everybody.
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There's that fucking phrase again. Larry Niven was wrong, lack of context is the real mind killer.
Spurs may be their Borganine, but they're not Spurs' Sinatra.
If some non-spurs jewish people are offended, spurs fans can only plead with them that "the thing I love most is being a yid", is sincere, yes, it's taken on a meaning indepedent of jewshness too, but there's no hidden double meaning intended to spread hate towards jewish people or hurt their feelings.
If the intent, historic context, and the support of jewish spurs fans is not enough, then I have to ask them why not? Without a good explanation spurs fans are under no obligation to just give in. From that point I have to question their motive.
Cheers. I've not faced any kind of overt racism since I left school, but ironically, since I left Islam I have been accused of Islamophobia almost every time I've tried to criticise that religion (only online, under pseudonyms). The liberals who SHOULD support me for leaving that regressive religion, instead side with the muslims. My personal experience is not so bad, but ex-muslims are often attacked by left in the name of protecting the muslim minority.
It feels the same with the whole y-word nonsense. The high-minded liberals should be on Spurs' side, but in their overzealous crusade to stamp out racism, they are attacking the very people they're supposedly trying to protect.
It's doublespeak in the proper 1984 meaning of the word. The victims of islam are islamophobes, the gentiles who defend the jew against abuse are actually his abusers. These aren't the only examples either.
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Of what? Football? Because you said the clu sanitising its image to be sold to a wealth benefactor was marxist. Notsure how that links to the great reset or whatever
Yes, now the entire population of the world can spend their measly social credits on their Big Mac team. And they will be luvin it. Marxist Globalism. This is not mentioned in the Penguin guide to economic history.
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What exactly makes you cringe? The original meaning of the word, or the fact we now apparently have a moral obligation not to use it?
Usage in Yiddish
In Yiddish, the word "[B]Yid" [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language']Yiddish[/URL]: [/B][/I][B][I]ייד[/I][/B][I][B] is neutral or even complimentary[/B], and in Ashkenazi Yiddish-speaking circles it is frequently used to mean simply "fellow," "chap," "buddy," "mate," etc., with no expressed emphasis on Jewishness (although this may be implied by the intra-Jewish context). Plural is יידן [jidn].In Yiddish, a polite way to address a fellow Jew whose name one does not know is Reb Yid, meaning "Sir." The Yiddish words yidish or yiddisher (from Middle High German jüdisch) is an adjective derived from the noun Yid, and thus means "Jewish".
You do realise the origins of the word were stolen, raped, bastardised and spat back at us with such venom!
THAT'S cringeworthy... Not the way it has been reclaimed!
Ahhhh, but as long as they don't say 'yid' whilst hissing!!
I'm Jewish, and fine using the word... Because I know where it originates, my grandparents spoke Yiddish, I grew up with YIDDISH words, which are ALL around us!
It's got to the point where the origins don't matter any more... It's all about the here and NOW!
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This already happened. There was a BBC documentary not long after the Rudiger accusation, and it was very jarring how often the Spurs stadium footage was paired with the narrator going on about racism.
Tottenham Hotspur complains to BBC over The One Show 'racism claims'
Fans of Spurs, which has a prominent Jewish following, have branded the segment "disgusting" and called for the BBC to make a formal apology
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In a game where no proof of racism against Rudiger was found, but chelsea fans were ejected for racism against Son, somehow Spurs ended up branded as the racists.
This already happened. There was a BBC documentary not long after the Rudiger accusation, and it was very jarring how often the Spurs stadium footage was paired with the narrator going on about racism.
Tottenham Hotspur complains to BBC over The One Show 'racism claims'
Fans of Spurs, which has a prominent Jewish following, have branded the segment "disgusting" and called for the BBC to make a formal apologywww.birminghammail.co.uk
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In a game where no proof of racism against Rudiger was found, but chelsea fans were ejected for racism against Son, somehow Spurs ended up branded as the racists.
Notice how the club itself didn't complain about that smear? It suits them.