That is a very negative spin, but since we just lost to my least favourite team of all time, I'll extend some sympathy.
There, there. It will get better soon.
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There, there. It will get better soon.
I'm actually concerned for anyone that thought we played anything close to well today. We were abysmal from back to front for the majority of the game against a side going nowhere.
Hello your grace
Seems like you're approaching this result in isolation vs a consistent theme of this team doing well one week and throwing away results the next. Had we been on a run and then this game happened, nobody would be melting. But instead we're here having lost to Middlesbrough, Burnley, Wolves and Southampton.
Defeats now and then are expected, it's football. But this team wins one and loses one, and it's not good enough at all. Conte certainly won't be close to happy about it, so why should the fans?
Completely disagree. That was the most lethargic football game I've ever seen. Both clubs are at an impasse. It wasn't exciting. It was a match full of personal errors on and off the ball.
Roy Keane was spot on. The team looked scared to take it to United. At 1-1 and 2-2 the belief looked worse. This was the point Kane and Son should have won the game. Even Watford managed to get a draw there last. Have Burnley won a home game since they won 1-0 against us??
I hope people on here don't get too depressed about the outcome- this was always going to be an extremely difficult one to get a result in. Rangnick picked a great team to combat us with, and even though some of his players waned in effectiveness, it was still enough to see off our very unbalanced squad.
Doherty really fell back to earth in this one- really awful technical execution almost every time. We simply don't deserve to win against top tier XIs if we start talent like this. It hurts a lot now, but at least this is something we can fairly easily fix in the summer.
Conte made a bad substitution taking off Deki instead of Son for Moura. Even though Son is much more a playmaker than Moura, he's still not all that much of a playmaker, and we appeared to miss Deki's nous and composure almost immediately. Moura and Son are more like-for-like as willing runners. I hope Conte learned something about Moura today.
Ronaldo is Ronaldo, but I'm still disappointed we gave up a third to him on a such a weak set piece. Not marking, or letting Doherty mark (not sure which), one of the all time greats and also probably still the player with the highest vertical leap in the league, is absolutely, pathetically idiotic. If I'm Kane or Dier, there's no way in fucking hell Ronaldo goes unmarked in a set piece in the last 15 minutes of the game! I really don't know what the eff we were thinking, but the whole team + Conte completely failed in allowing that to happen. If you're not the fastest or the best, you can at least play smart, and and so many occasions like this, we simply fail to try and create situations with the highest probability of success.
Anyways... the team needs time to become more well coached, and also another transfer window to fix some obvious and terrible holes (Doherty, Winks, etc). Until then, yep- we're going to struggle against better and better-focused talent. We shouldn't get too upset though- it's spurs, and we all know should know whats going on by now- expect for bad shit to happen, "lads its tottenham", "dr tottenham", etc.
For now I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do this summer and next season.
Doherty really fell back to earth in this one- really awful technical execution almost every time. We simply don't deserve to win against top tier XIs if we start talent like this. It hurts a lot now, but at least this is something we can fairly easily fix in the summer.
Conte made a bad substitution taking off Deki instead of Son for Moura. Even though Son is much more a playmaker than Moura, he's still not all that much of a playmaker, and we appeared to miss Deki's nous and composure almost immediately. Moura and Son are more like-for-like as willing runners. I hope Conte learned something about Moura today.
Ronaldo is Ronaldo, but I'm still disappointed we gave up a third to him on a such a weak set piece. Not marking, or letting Doherty mark (not sure which), one of the all time greats and also probably still the player with the highest vertical leap in the league, is absolutely, pathetically idiotic. If I'm Kane or Dier, there's no way in fucking hell Ronaldo goes unmarked in a set piece in the last 15 minutes of the game! I really don't know what the eff we were thinking, but the whole team + Conte completely failed in allowing that to happen. If you're not the fastest or the best, you can at least play smart, and and so many occasions like this, we simply fail to try and create situations with the highest probability of success.
Anyways... the team needs time to become more well coached, and also another transfer window to fix some obvious and terrible holes (Doherty, Winks, etc). Until then, yep- we're going to struggle against better and better-focused talent. We shouldn't get too upset though- it's spurs, and we all know should know whats going on by now- expect for bad shit to happen, "lads its tottenham", "dr tottenham", etc.
For now I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do this summer and next season.
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Maura and Stevie need to be brought on earlier,when the opposition begin to flag and they are both fresh legs and lively
It's ok he's in the top 5 managers of world football. He hates cups but loves winning leagues though
Definitely not the one who should have been replaced
Yeah, I understand that and agree, I just don't want to get suicidal about it.
Or think that people's "change x for y", "change abc for def" will change my Tottenham Hotspur experience
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Very level headed and generally some really good points made.
After the initial disappointment wears off a bit I don't think we've learned anything new about our team.
Nowhere near good enough in midfield or defence, any by the strength of our bench that isn't going to change this season. I think 6-7th is probably the best this group is capable of realistically so just expect the rest of the season to be more of the same and you won't be too far wrong.
Really hope Conte does stay and gives it at least 1 full season with some big improvements to the first XI in summer. I'm not holding my breath however.
Totally agree , bunch of wank melts on this forum
..I thought we played pretty well, wingbacks could’ve been more efficient and Son was poor but all in all we played well. It was a hard fought victory for United who have some serious players in their starting 11 including as you said one of, if not the best finisher in the world
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It sucks, but we absolutely deserve no higher than 6th. Losing to some of the recent opposition we've lost to is just inexcusable.
It's so frustrating because I genuinely feel like we're 2-3 players away from being a decent team. But those small margins make such a massive difference, and right now we go from good to diabolical every week.
I would rather we fail if it got to that.
No probs mate but words in this day and age need to be contained somewhat.
There is something about this club but it's also the players because many have been damn good.
What everyone needs to understand is that since Bale left (first time) we have had nobody who stands on that pitch, looks at the other players and says follow my fcuking lead, because I am the best player on this pitch.
Tonight Ronaldo looked at our team and simply thought easy. How fcuking right he was.
No Leader equals no chance and United won't have an easier gane than today between now and the end of season.
To be 2 each with a team who had been ridiculed all week and lose is Fcuking disgraceful.
Take Ronaldo out their team and they are nothing
We’ve lost 5 of our last 8 league games. Two of the wins were against relegation contenders Everton and Leeds. Throw in an FA Cup defeat at Middlesbrough as well.
There’s the lone outlier of the win at Citeh, but aside from that our form has been poor for a while now.
Agree and disagree.
Just saying we were bulging with jewels, it will take £200M Summer, keep saying.
Facts is ENIC gotta close the naming rights IMO, or a very unhappy Conte Walks, Poch goes Utd (as we promise Conte all summer we'll deliver, so he doesn't hold out), we'll be back to Potter Vs South American we've never heard of by September, with Mason in Temporary Charge = Visionary!!!