• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Antonio Conte

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Conte is a winner and needs backing, I want him to stay but I don’t think it’s the right fit for him

We have a losers mentality from board to players and the only way we snap out of that is getting lucky with a young manager like we almost did with Poch

We have the best chance with Conte but won’t spend the necessary money to see it through

It’s like getting an f1 driver in to drive your Mazda
Exactly where I’m at.

I won’t be too upset to see him go as, if we’re honest, the football blows and it’s never going to work. But he will categorically go on to his next club and hoover up trophies.

We’re fucking jokers.

You need owners that are *obsessed* with winning. They establish the culture that runs through the club. You can just imagine the bollocks ENIC aspire too - ‘To provide the premier multimedia experience for discerning customers. Luxury cheeses and fine wines as you enjoy soccer, NFL or the latest Coldplay concert’.

It’s amazing. Hats off to them. And they will reap the financial rewards. But they are not winners.
 
Exactly where I’m at.

I won’t be too upset to see him go as, if we’re honest, the football blows and it’s never going to work. But he will categorically go on to his next club and hoover up trophies.

We’re fucking jokers.

You need owners that are *obsessed* with winning. They establish the culture that runs through the club. You can just imagine the bollocks ENIC aspire too - ‘To provide the premier multimedia experience for discerning customers. Luxury cheeses and fine wines as you enjoy soccer, NFL or the latest Coldplay concert’.

It’s amazing. Hats off to them. And they will reap the financial rewards. But they are not winners.
They have done some really good things for the club, and steadied us, I mean look where we were under sugar. But they just don’t have that aspiration on the football side of things

I was indifferent to Lewis and Levy for a long time but have now transitioned into really loathing them

We have all the tools necessary to win the big trophies, but they just won’t take that final step you need to

How many players have we missed out on for the sake of a couple of million? It’s mind blowing
 


we aint getting anywhere

seems conte knows too


1c7cd7e9df6fa91feba91283fc77c23d.gif



☆Antonio Conte the latest in a long line of Spurs managers to find out what it means to "Get Levy'd"☆
 
They have done some really good things for the club, and steadied us, I mean look where we were under sugar. But they just don’t have that aspiration on the football side of things

I was indifferent to Lewis and Levy for a long time but have now transitioned into really loathing them

We have all the tools necessary to win the big trophies, but they just won’t take that final step you need to

How many players have we missed out on for the sake of a couple of million? It’s mind blowing
Your right, we could be a big club if they wanted us to be sadly on the pitch they don't.
They need to act like a big club, but instead are more concerned with finding players that are winding down their contract, so we can get them on the cheap.
 
We should go after Kompany and try and agree some form of informal special relationship with City and become their two way feeder club. We take their youngsters and squad players to take points off their rivals and bend over for them twice a season and give them 6 points and a wrap around
 
Great post. We're neither one thing or the other. If you appoint Conte then you have to get him the best players and expect to spend big most, if not all windows. If we're not prepared to do that then we need to change manager....again. Personally this is why i wanted Naglesmann, Ten Hag or Potter in May 2021 because i think they would be more in keeping of what we actually are, not the fantasy of what the owners think we are. I've had enough of being a pound shop Chelsea. Pretty clear not everyone at the club is pulling in the same direction. Ideally ENIC really need to decide if they're the right organisation to push us on (i think the answer is clearly no) but i think that sort of self reflection is way beyond them. Either way i think a change of manager is coming in the next few months.
Great post! You could add Howe to that list.
 
We couldn't get Conte because we weren't able to match his needs. Showed us up for being a nothing club.

Now it's the wrong type of manager because Woolwich and Newcastle are doing well.

I may be narky but fcuk me j just want success.

We should be closer to that rag tag outfit and for sure Conte can do more with his resources but this isn't a straight line analysis.

Watch Arteta next season or Howe, even with his dirty fcuking backers probably struggle if they get into the CL and have to deal with all manner of expectation at club and country level.

16 effing games - shameful.

We need increased performance from players number one. If we can get a couple of quality additions as well then what's the issue?
For all my protestations about conte I think what say is attainable. Just need to let the handbrake off, instill some Italian passion in our play and our quality forwards do the biz. This what I hoped conte would do. He seems to have gone the other way. I thought he’d make us hard to play against, be a bit dirty and try to overrun teams. I think his over egged the tactics. What we needed was someone to fire the players up. Not sure we play like such softies.
 
I'd go with this:

Spence Romero Lenglet Udogie

Recall Udogie (even if we have to pay Udinese extra money, just do it), the FBs have speed to help Lenglet's lack of it. Romero plays in a 4 for Argentina.

Put Bentancur and Bissouma in front of them as they actually know how to play DM and have defensive instincts.

If you want 433 then play Bentancur, PEH and Bissouma. Or even throw in Skipp doesn't really matter.

Then the normal 3 up front or Perisic for Son.
Not bad but I’d go with the poch set up so play two from Biss, PEH, bent and skipp. Stick a number 10 in front like Maddison or play kulu there then have front 3 from Kane , rich, son and peri. In fact I’d play white as the 10.
 
For all my protestations about conte I think what say is attainable. Just need to let the handbrake off, instill some Italian passion in our play and our quality forwards do the biz. This what I hoped conte would do. He seems to have gone the other way. I thought he’d make us hard to play against, be a bit dirty and try to overrun teams. I think his over egged the tactics. What we needed was someone to fire the players up. Not sure we play like such softies.
We should be more "al dente"....
 
Remember when Conte did well at his first real managing job (Siena), publicly lobbied for the Juventus gig, didn't get it, went to Atalanta instead, and was run out of town by their ultras within 4/5 months?

The Italians are anoraks/trainspotters about football mangers. They appreciate obsessives and eccentrics. Even top-level Italian managers will make pilgrimages to watch some random kook's novel approaches to training + tactics.
 
He's a 2nd half manager....

Poch always struck me as a manager who got us going from the off, and then faded 2nd half...

You know what I'm gonna say...

Get Poch at all costs for the first half, and sub him for Conte for the 2nd half...

We'd steamroller EVERYONE!
 
In other words, Spurs being the cheapskate cunts they are will not get the huge defensive reinforcements needed, but will instead push for young players that won’t make the 1st team like Spence. Yes Bentacur and Kulusevci were terrific signings, but these are a rarity
Thing is we are caught between a rock and hard place. What is conte saying we have vision for young players and accessible salaries? Who dies he want and what would their age and salaries be?
 
Exactly where I’m at.

I won’t be too upset to see him go as, if we’re honest, the football blows and it’s never going to work. But he will categorically go on to his next club and hoover up trophies.

We’re fucking jokers.

You need owners that are *obsessed* with winning. They establish the culture that runs through the club. You can just imagine the bollocks ENIC aspire too - ‘To provide the premier multimedia experience for discerning customers. Luxury cheeses and fine wines as you enjoy soccer, NFL or the latest Coldplay concert’.

It’s amazing. Hats off to them. And they will reap the financial rewards. But they are not winners.
ENIC are just an accountancy firm, no interest in making it the top club.
Their incentive, is, to make it the most profitable club around, at the expense of bringing success.
 
ENIC are just an accountancy firm, no interest in making it the top club.
Their incentive, is, to make it the most profitable club around, at the expense of bringing success.

I’m pretty sure the biggest financial rewards, including resale value, would come for the owners if we were to be successful on the pitch - being “the top club” (PL or CL winners) would be a massive profit generator.
 
Back
Top