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Player Timo Werner

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Richard Arlison said:
because we aren't signing another 2 forwards on top of the x2 CMs and a defender that we need to bring in.

If we get a CF from here that is probably reasonable to expect but with Richy staying there is ZERO chance Levy is sanctioning a bug enough spend to get a better striker than Richy. It's just not how he has ever operated.
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We signed 7 new players permanently last summer (Maddison, Johnson, Solomon, VDV, Vicario + Veliz and Phillips) plus options on Kulu and Porro.

So Werner plus another 5 is completely feasible (especially since we haven't paid a fee for him) and I would even say likely.

Finally, your point was that we would start next season with Son, Richy and Johnson as our starting forwards which means you think we won't even sign 1 starting forward (never mind two).

I predict:

LW: Werner (Loan) - Free
CF: Richy Cover - 25-30m
RW: Starting winger - 60-70m
CM 1: Gallagher - 40m
CM 2: Creative type - 30-40m
CB/RB: Young punt - 20-30m

Total: 210m at the high end

Raise 60m with the sales of:
PEH, Gio, Emerson, Gil, Solomon,

Net spend 150m gives you (insert whichever targets you fancy):

Son - Richy - Raphina
(Werner) -- (Guirassey) -- (Johnson)
Maddison -- Gallagher
(Baena/Kulu) -- (Sarr/Bergvall)
Biss
(Bentancur)
Udogie -- VDV -- Romero -- Porro
(Davies) -- (Calafori) -- (Dragusin) -- (Skipp)
Vicario


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Does that make us title challengers? No but it is a much more balanced squad with more variety in attack and more cover everywhere.

I think our biggest issue is that you're not winning titles with Son/Richy starting but that is not a problem we will solve this summer.

Next season should be about winning a cup, returning to CL football and lining up the Son successor.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
We signed 7 new players permanently last summer (Maddison, Johnson, Solomon, VDV, Vicario + Veliz and Phillips) plus options on Kulu and Porro.

So Werner plus another 5 is completely feasible (especially since we haven't paid a fee for him) and I would even say likely.

Finally, your point was that we would start next season with Son, Richy and Johnson as our starting forwards which means you think we won't even sign 1 starting forward (never mind two).

I predict:

LW: Werner (Loan) - Free
CF: Richy Cover - 25-30m
RW: Starting winger - 60-70m
CM 1: Gallagher - 40m
CM 2: Creative type - 30-40m
CB/RB: Young punt - 20-30m

Total: 210m at the high end

Raise 60m with the sales of:
PEH, Gio, Emerson, Gil, Solomon,

Net spend 150m gives you (insert whichever targets you fancy):

Son - Richy - Raphina
(Werner) -- (Guirassey) -- (Johnson)
Maddison -- Gallagher
(Baena/Kulu) -- (Sarr/Bergvall)
Biss
(Bentancur)
Udogie -- VDV -- Romero -- Porro
(Davies) -- (Calafori) -- (Dragusin) -- (Skipp)
Vicario


​
Does that make us title challengers? No but it is a much more balanced squad with more variety in attack and more cover everywhere.

I think our biggest issue is that you're not winning titles with Son/Richy starting but that is not a problem we will solve this summer.

Next season should be about winning a cup, returning to CL football and lining up the Son successor.
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5 of those were senior players. Veliz and Phillips are possibly even separate budget.

We also had money coming in from Kane to spend.

I can see the x2 CMs being a Gallagher and more creative 8/10 type that also plays wide when needed.

If we get all that done, I will hold my hand up and say fair play. It's fantasy to me though and I'm usually one of the more optimistic
 
Richard Arlison said:
Despite the fact that Ange was very clear that the most work we needed to do in the market was to improve in the final third, Werner pretty much guarantees that we start next season with the same starting front 3 as the one we ended last season with.
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Rubbish. We will certainly sign a CF and probably a RW too.
Ange said only a few days ago that he knew the plans and was happy with them
 
Yiddy said:
I think right wing yes we could do with a much better all round player than Johnson there. Effectively he'll be Son cover for the left wing or to come off the bench and stretch teams and cause problems when things aren't going our way which I'm personally ok with.
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son and werner is a weak left side. one cant hit a barn door and the other doesn't have the brain to play against a side sitting in.

we need the wide players to have natural ability in the wide areas. a lot of sides sit in against us now, weve struggled against this for years. you need real natural quality to break that down if your aim is to play through them like this manager seems to want. the other way is to get numbers in the box and flood the box with the ball over and over, which will cause them to actually come out to stop the cross at source..but we dont do that either.
 
Nuts said:
I can't help but wonder if now is the time to recruit and start bedding in Sonny's replacement. Timo won't be it in the long run. Maybe the club are thinking this is something to think about in the next summer window but I'd personally prefer it if they started work here sooner rather than later.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we already have him at the club!

It can't be a coincidence that we're suddenly developing attacking/forward thinking midfielders in the youth teams like Moore, Lankshear, Donley, and even Bergwall coming in next month ...

ONE of them should stick!!
 
VonnegutBusy said:
We signed 7 new players permanently last summer (Maddison, Johnson, Solomon, VDV, Vicario + Veliz and Phillips) plus options on Kulu and Porro.

So Werner plus another 5 is completely feasible (especially since we haven't paid a fee for him) and I would even say likely.

Finally, your point was that we would start next season with Son, Richy and Johnson as our starting forwards which means you think we won't even sign 1 starting forward (never mind two).

I predict:

LW: Werner (Loan) - Free
CF: Richy Cover - 25-30m
RW: Starting winger - 60-70m
CM 1: Gallagher - 40m
CM 2: Creative type - 30-40m
CB/RB: Young punt - 20-30m

Total: 210m at the high end

Raise 60m with the sales of:
PEH, Gio, Emerson, Gil, Solomon,

Net spend 150m gives you (insert whichever targets you fancy):

Son - Richy - Raphina
(Werner) -- (Guirassey) -- (Johnson)
Maddison -- Gallagher
(Baena/Kulu) -- (Sarr/Bergvall)
Biss
(Bentancur)
Udogie -- VDV -- Romero -- Porro
(Davies) -- (Calafori) -- (Dragusin) -- (Skipp)
Vicario


​
Does that make us title challengers? No but it is a much more balanced squad with more variety in attack and more cover everywhere.

I think our biggest issue is that you're not winning titles with Son/Richy starting but that is not a problem we will solve this summer.

Next season should be about winning a cup, returning to CL football and lining up the Son successor.
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Sweet dreams.
 
Ill give Werner the benefit of the doubt because of his german league form. I think he has potential to come good and find his shooting boots if he can find a bit of form and confidence and go on a run/get some games under his belt.

Secondly Gil and Solomon will most likely be gone so it makes some sense to retain him.

All this comes down to what happens with incomings though.
 
dondo said:
Rubbish. We will certainly sign a CF and probably a RW too.
Ange said only a few days ago that he knew the plans and was happy with them
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Ange knows the score.

We are the underdogs. Once people get their head around that and realise our greatness will come from the sum of our parts not individuals then they may understand The Way of Ange.
 
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