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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%

  • Total voters
    112
From NYT article about our injuries:


- Former Head of Medicine and Sports Science Geoff Scott fell out with Ange after they had an argument about how to manage the squad's workload and the recovery of injured players

- Micky and Romero only completed a couple of training sessions before Chelsea. Medical staff held reservations about Micky starting vs Chelsea, but he started only meant to play 60. He went on to stay on for 79 mins and get a re-occurrence of that same injury.

- Romero only trained the day before the game, and with a significant hamstring injury like he suffered, there were questions whether he should actually start
Well i never. Who would have thought that?
 
From NYT article about our injuries:


- Former Head of Medicine and Sports Science Geoff Scott fell out with Ange after they had an argument about how to manage the squad's workload and the recovery of injured players

- Micky and Romero only completed a couple of training sessions before Chelsea. Medical staff held reservations about Micky starting vs Chelsea, but he started only meant to play 60. He went on to stay on for 79 mins and get a re-occurrence of that same injury.

- Romero only trained the day before the game, and with a significant hamstring injury like he suffered, there were questions whether he should actually start

Interesting -I thought Romero was out with a foot injury??


Cristian Romero has been ruled out of our Premier League trip to Manchester City on Saturday (5.30pm UK), confirmed Ange Postecoglou.

The defender sustained a recurrence to the foot injury that he picked up against Aston Villa earlier this month during Argentina's World Cup qualifier on Thursday last week and was substituted at half-time before returning home for the birth of his second child on Wednesday.
 
Interesting -I thought Romero was out with a foot injury??


Cristian Romero has been ruled out of our Premier League trip to Manchester City on Saturday (5.30pm UK), confirmed Ange Postecoglou.

The defender sustained a recurrence to the foot injury that he picked up against Aston Villa earlier this month during Argentina's World Cup qualifier on Thursday last week and was substituted at half-time before returning home for the birth of his second child on Wednesday.

He had both a toe and a hamstring injury and was trying to play through both.

Ange himself:

"One was obviously the knock on his toe which has been a bit troublesome and prior to that he had a bit of a tight hamstring," Postecoglou added.


No surprise he injured his quad if he's having to play through pain and can't move comfortably, easy to pick up other injuries when the body has to compensate by overusing other muscles.
 
From NYT article about our injuries:


- Former Head of Medicine and Sports Science Geoff Scott fell out with Ange after they had an argument about how to manage the squad's workload and the recovery of injured players

- Micky and Romero only completed a couple of training sessions before Chelsea. Medical staff held reservations about Micky starting vs Chelsea, but he started only meant to play 60. He went on to stay on for 79 mins and get a re-occurrence of that same injury.

- Romero only trained the day before the game, and with a significant hamstring injury like he suffered, there were questions whether he should actually start
Romero wasn’t out with a hamstring injury before Chelsea, he fucked his foot slide tackling Morgan Rogers.

I do think if Ange could have it back he’d have taken VDV off at 60mins like planned, even if it meant Gray at CB and more goals conceded,

But let’s not pretend this isn’t a failed member of the sports science team, giving a disgruntled interview after getting fired.

If we look at our injury record for years, all the way back to Jose, if he was in place then, he probably deserved to get fired.
 
He had both a toe and a hamstring injury and was trying to play through both.

Ange himself:

"One was obviously the knock on his toe which has been a bit troublesome and prior to that he had a bit of a tight hamstring," Postecoglou added.


No surprise he injured his quad if he's having to play through pain and can't move comfortably, easy to pick up other injuries when the body has to compensate by overusing other muscles.

He was out for 3 weeks including the international break before he came back?

No chance a “tight hamstring” is still in play by the time he returned.

The reason he was out was the foot injury.
 
He had both a toe and a hamstring injury and was trying to play through both.

Ange himself:

"One was obviously the knock on his toe which has been a bit troublesome and prior to that he had a bit of a tight hamstring," Postecoglou added.


No surprise he injured his quad if he's having to play through pain and can't move comfortably, easy to pick up other injuries when the body has to compensate by overusing other muscles.

If youre going to quote Ange.....

“No, Romero didn’t injure the same thing,” Postecoglou said. “It’s a totally different injury but also I’m sure people are aware of our situation. It’s not like I’ve got a multitude of options so you’ve got to make these decisions. Both players trained well and wanted to help. So you make these decisions with all the best information.”
 
'Since the end of last season Tottenham’s medical and sports science departments have undergone significant change. It all started when Geoff Scott left his position as head of medicine and sports science in the summer. It ended a 20-year association with Spurs for Scott who became their head physio in 2004 after leaving Fulham. He worked under 11 different managers including Mauricio Pochettino, Jose Mourinho, Antonio Conte and Postecoglou.

Scott left Spurs after clashing with Postecoglou. Sources with knowledge of the situation, who asked to remain anonymous to protect relationships, say that the pair fell out over how to manage the first-team squad’s workload and the recovery of injured players. However, the club insists that Scott’s departure did not involve Ange Postecoglou and was instead a result of the review and restructure of the department.'


Deary me. Looks like Trix's info was spot on. Three members of the medical team left Spurs after someone at the club (Ange) didn't like what they were telling him about managing the injuries.

I'm sorry but yet more evidence that we have employed a total fucking fraud bluffer, who has no idea how to manage a elite PL team and we're a fucking mess because of it.

Just sack the cunt.
 
Interesting -I thought Romero was out with a foot injury??


Cristian Romero has been ruled out of our Premier League trip to Manchester City on Saturday (5.30pm UK), confirmed Ange Postecoglou.

The defender sustained a recurrence to the foot injury that he picked up against Aston Villa earlier this month during Argentina's World Cup qualifier on Thursday last week and was substituted at half-time before returning home for the birth of his second child on Wednesday.
Also, who in the Spurs medical team at the time cleared Romero to go on international duty if it was later such a risk due to his tight hamstring injury before?
 
Romero wasn’t out with a hamstring injury before Chelsea, he fucked his foot slide tackling Morgan Rogers.

I do think if Ange could have it back he’d have taken VDV off at 60mins like planned, even if it meant Gray at CB and more goals conceded,

But let’s not pretend this isn’t a failed member of the sports science team, giving a disgruntled interview after getting fired.


If we look at our injury record for years, all the way back to Jose, if he was in place then, he probably deserved to get fired.

My god you chat some nonsense some times. It's three members of the medical team that left, not one disgruntled one. But no, all three are wrong are they, let's believe the 60 year old Aussie bluffer totally out of his depth.

I mean it's not like he isn't doing a fucking appalling job at getting results and managing the team in other ways, so what makes you think this bloke has a clue how to train and manage injuries for an elite PL side?

I'll trust the blokes with actual medical degrees, not Ange.
 
If youre going to quote Ange.....

“No, Romero didn’t injure the same thing,” Postecoglou said. “It’s a totally different injury but also I’m sure people are aware of our situation. It’s not like I’ve got a multitude of options so you’ve got to make these decisions. Both players trained well and wanted to help. So you make these decisions with all the best information.”

That doesn't contradict what I said. Of course it's a different injury, the quad and the hamstring are different muscles.

My point is that by playing a player who is not able to move freely, you risk further injuries as they have to compensate by overloading other muscles. Romero was playing through two injuries already, started a game when not properly recovered and picked up another injury as a result. It wasn't just bad luck. It was reckless and incompetent from Ange and it ruined our season.
 
I think it's pretty obvious the way that VDV and Romero broke down v Chelsea, that Ange gambled on their fitness.

The most likely scenario is the true one. We have noises that medical team said they shouldn't play, but they did and got injured. Ange was under the cosh, a big game coming up, he needed a result, he threw them in gambled and then subsequently fucked our season up even more.

It's all on Ange. He's a clueless cretin.
 
That doesn't contradict what I said. Of course it's a different injury, the quad and the hamstring are different muscles.

My point is that by playing a player who is not able to move freely, you risk further injuries as they have to compensate by overloading other muscles. Romero was playing through two injuries already, started a game when not properly recovered and picked up another injury as a result. It wasn't just bad luck.

Exactly. Romero wouldn't have been able to train with the foot injury, he was then thrown into a high intesity game and got injured.

It's mental how some of these people bend over backwards to protect a fraud of a manager.
 
The last I'll say on this is that there were concerns about both of them playing (amongst others in other games). They both STARTED, they both got injured. The medical team gain nothing by pushing players back out too early, and it's very much in the interest of the coaching team to have their best players available as much as possible. Very shortly after this 3 of them are down the road..........
 
From NYT article about our injuries:


- Former Head of Medicine and Sports Science Geoff Scott fell out with Ange after they had an argument about how to manage the squad's workload and the recovery of injured players

- Micky and Romero only completed a couple of training sessions before Chelsea. Medical staff held reservations about Micky starting vs Chelsea, but he started only meant to play 60. He went on to stay on for 79 mins and get a re-occurrence of that same injury.

- Romero only trained the day before the game, and with a significant hamstring injury like he suffered, there were questions whether he should actually start
If this is all being leaked now then the ground is being prepared for his sacking surely
 
I don’t watch the 18’s or 21’s so don’t have names. We need to look bigger picture, Kulu and Porro look absolutely fucked

I can't take this take seriously sorry, it you don't watch our young players then how do you know if they're good enough?

Do you not think if they were actually good enough they'd make it in and around the first team like Moore?
 
If this is all being leaked now then the ground is being prepared for his sacking surely

It's not a traditional leak tbh. It's a disgruntled former member of staff getting revenge by way of interview in the Athletic.

That doesn't contradict what I said. Of course it's a different injury, the quad and the hamstring are different muscles.

My point is that by playing a player who is not able to move freely, you risk further injuries as they have to compensate by overloading other muscles. Romero was playing through two injuries already, started a game when not properly recovered and picked up another injury as a result. It wasn't just bad luck. It was reckless and incompetent from Ange and it ruined our season.

Why did they clear him to go on international duty with Argentina if he wasn't moving freely?
 
right ok....and?

I don't get what your point is? you're saying because it's a football forum you can lie about opinion? you can troll?

This is a Tottenham Hotspur Forum where regardless of the various characters we all should have one hope which is for the club to be performing at the very best.

You and Richard Arlison Richard Arlison (who has now basically said he can lose every game and it still wouldn't change his mind) gave an opinion as to what Ange has to do to survive and you both clearly stated what you felt...he fails at the very first hurdle and you guys are on here again arguing to others about the same thing like you didn't make those comments and that result didn't happen.
Mate, it's getting to the stage where admin should ban them for not being Spurs fans.

Chuck em on ignore. They feed off replies. Starve them in to submission.
 
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