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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
We are run by fuckwits. Shouldnt be a shock. Levy has never got it.


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Honestly, they are not wrong. I'm not an Ange outter that early because I'm not for such changing and chopping culture too.

BUT, THEY GOTTA FUCKING MAKE SOME SIGNINGS TO BACK THAT UP FFS!! They can't make all these novel claims and not shown by the business dealings. Fuck Levy that cunt and fuck that board.
 
I really didn't want him that summer two years ago. Because the second time round things are rarely as good, and it's hardly like his post Spurs career has been a roaring success - he's currently the USA coach ffs. But, beggars can't be choosers.
I think it would probably be better than what we currently have. I’d settle for a disappointing 7-10th with the odd cup run right now.
 
All I know is that that Nunu had 26 points in 18 games and we sacked him.
There is only one reason he is not sacked yet and its money.

He fired too many and has had too many bills to pay.
£13m pay off to Poch
£20m pay-off to Jose
£14m pay-off to Nunu
£51m pay-off to Conte
Since 2019 it is almost £100m wasted on fired managers.

Levy is trying to save some money here with Ange. I think if he keeps him until the end of this year the pay off is probably lower when the season end. As long as we don't get relegated its fine for Levy. Sucks for us hooray!!! ffs.

Where the hell did you find those figures??
Conte had 3 months left on his contract!!

£51m!!!!! Fuck off you absolute maniac!!!
 
All I know is that that Nunu had 26 points in 18 games and we sacked him.
There is only one reason he is not sacked yet and its money.

He fired too many and has had too many bills to pay.
£13m pay off to Poch
£20m pay-off to Jose
£14m pay-off to Nunu
£51m pay-off to Conte
Since 2019 it is almost £100m wasted on fired managers.

Levy is trying to save some money here with Ange. I think if he keeps him until the end of this year the pay off is probably lower when the season end. As long as we don't get relegated its fine for Levy. Sucks for us hooray!!! ffs.
Season’s done apart from cups, anyway - there’s no salvaging the league now. Hopefully we’ll improve enough to get a few wins when players return. I guess the plan is to save a few million and start afresh over summer. I think that’s why there’s nothing much coming in TW. Why buy to support a coach who’s clearly f**ked your club? Unlike many here, I don’t doubt Levy is a fan - just shows it in an odd way.
 
I have read you doing this thing you describe yourself.

What 'good' have they done for the 'club'?

Please explain.
Ah, the swerve.

Ok, I'll answer regardless.

They took us from the old WHL, built the new stadium and currently have us as one of the biggest revenue makers in the World. If you don't think that's good, you need your bumps felt, as you'd be the ONLY fan around who thinks that you don't need money to be successful at the highest level.

In short, they've set the groundwork. The fact that they really haven't kicked on from that, and used that financial muscle where it matters most, I've already touched on.

Now then, I've answered your question so answer mine. What have you actually done to "dig him out of the club?" You made a big point of sharing this heroism with us, now give us a few details. I've even given you a few prompts to help you along.
 
Because we still had several good years of financial results before that to prop it up. But that surplus was largely eaten by the year you've brought up. Which would be fine, assuming we returned to normal service. But now that we haven't, we don't have good years behind us to prop us up.

And in terms of PSR, it's a rolling calculation of the previous 3 seasons so, like the UEFA coefficient, once those previous seasons "age out" of the calculation it means fuck all. We're facing a PSR calculation on the horizon which will be composed of the 3 fiscal years with the 3 largest financial losses in club history. Won't be able to spend money, even assuming ENIC had the desire to.

As far as I can tell, the depreciation of the stadium is not included in PSR calculations, so that shouldn't be any impact whatsoever.

For all of the crap that we give Levy for things, his broadening of the commercial streams for the club means that we are less reliant on European competitions for revenues. Gameday receipts have been way up along with non-football stadium usage, so even without Europe we would be far less impacted than many other clubs due to the other revenue streams.
 
Financially we will be hamstrung (pun intended) by this era for years beyond this one. The last accounts we published included a record breaking loss for the club. The next accounts, covering 23-24 with no Europe will break that record. The accounts after that, with only EL revenue and likely finishing below 12th, will be close to a record breaking financial loss. The accounts after that, covering 25-26 with mo European competition revenue will likely set a new record financial loss.

At one time we had a lot of PSR runway. We've fucked that
This is absolutely, categorically false, and is a very important thing to not misunderstand:

Every penny of the stadium expenditure is EXEMPT from the PL's PSR and UEFA FFP calculations.

Read the above again. Learn it. Know it. Infrastructure investment is not part of PSR or FFP.

Money spent on the stadium debt is still real money out the door of course, and missing out on Europe does reduce revenue and impact the PSR/FFP scope somewhat. But looking to the financial losses on the club's financial results is a totally false reading of the situation for spending scope purposes.

We have the single most scope for additional player spending under PSR and FFP of any club subject to either regulation and any claim or insinuation to the contrary is absolutely, utterly false.

We are, in that sense, the single richest club on earth. No one has more scope to buy players in compliance within the rules than Spurs. We deserve leadership willing to exploit that advantage.
 
Ah, the swerve.

Ok, I'll answer regardless.

They took us from the old WHL, built the new stadium and currently have us as one of the biggest revenue makers in the World. If you don't think that's good, you need your bumps felt, as you'd be the ONLY fan around who thinks that you don't need money to be successful at the highest level.

In short, they've set the groundwork. The fact that they really haven't kicked on from that, and used that financial muscle where it matters most, I've already touched on.

Now then, I've answered your question so answer mine. What have you actually done to "dig him out of the club?" You made a big point of sharing this heroism with us, now give us a few details. I've even given you a few prompts to help you along.
Talk to me about the debt that has been incurred by this destruction of WHL and the erection of the megadome.

Who owns this debt and how do Spurs benefit from this?
 
I wonder if it’s the optics of sacking the manager during an injury crisis is having some effect on pulling the trigger?

Sack him if the poor form continues once players are back and they may feel it looks less reactionary to the potential successor.

It has to be almost the entire reason why they haven't done so yet. There is no other excuse why they haven't yet.

The only other consideration in the back of their minds is the continued optics with another manager merry-go-round, but that is likely a distant secondary consideration based on our current form.
 
Talk to me about the debt that has been incurred by this destruction of WHL and the erection of the megadome.

Who owns this debt and how do Spurs benefit from this?
As I suspected, you won't answer. Why?

I'll hazard a guess...

Your "I try to live by a moral code" schtick was just hot air. You've come on here and lied. Moral code my arse. You've tried to take the moral high ground as an excuse to dig out anyone who doesn't share your opinion.

Your repeated attempts to dodge the question has shown you up for what you really are.

Jog on.
 
This is absolutely, categorically false, and is a very important thing to not misunderstand:

Every penny of the stadium expenditure is EXEMPT from the PL's PSR and UEFA FFP calculations.

Read the above again. Learn it. Know it. Infrastructure investment is not part of PSR or FFP.

Money spent on the stadium debt is still real money out the door of course, and missing out on Europe does reduce revenue and impact the PSR/FFP scope somewhat. But looking to the financial losses on the club's financial results is a totally false reading of the situation for spending scope purposes.

We have the single most scope for additional player spending under PSR and FFP of any club subject to either regulation and any claim or insinuation to the contrary is absolutely, utterly false.

We are, in that sense, the single richest club on earth. No one has more scope to buy players in compliance within the rules than Spurs. We deserve leadership willing to exploit that advantage.
This is based upon the previous set of rolling 3 year financials which included very strong results previous to our loss posted in June. Our PSR ceiling will begin rapidly lowering as we post future FY results showing losses year after year.

The idea that not being in Europe at all 2 out of 3 years isn't going to greatly impact our finances and PSR calculation is just a bizarrely incorrect position from a very intelligent poster.
 
All I know is that that Nunu had 26 points in 18 games and we sacked him.
There is only one reason he is not sacked yet and its money.

He fired too many and has had too many bills to pay.
£13m pay off to Poch
£20m pay-off to Jose
£14m pay-off to Nunu
£51m pay-off to Conte
Since 2019 it is almost £100m wasted on fired managers.

Levy is trying to save some money here with Ange. I think if he keeps him until the end of this year the pay off is probably lower when the season end. As long as we don't get relegated its fine for Levy. Sucks for us hooray!!! ffs.
£51m to Conte 😂

Next you'll be claiming he paid a million bajillion to AVB lmao

Conte had 4 months left on his 18 month contract when he was sacked. So unless he was on a £150m a year deal at Spurs I don't think so.

Christ you lot are thick when it comes to contracts. Although perhaps I shouldn't be surprised for a poster incapable of spelling the name "Nuno"
 
All I know is that that Nunu had 26 points in 18 games and we sacked him.
There is only one reason he is not sacked yet and its money.

He fired too many and has had too many bills to pay.
£13m pay off to Poch
£20m pay-off to Jose
£14m pay-off to Nunu
£51m pay-off to Conte
Since 2019 it is almost £100m wasted on fired managers.

Levy is trying to save some money here with Ange. I think if he keeps him until the end of this year the pay off is probably lower when the season end. As long as we don't get relegated its fine for Levy. Sucks for us hooray!!! ffs.
Where'd you get that Conte figure from? He only had a few months left on his contract.
 
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