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Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25

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It's a highly manipulable process, but at the end of the day what you cannot do is what City and Chelsea did to brute force their way to the top over a many-year period. Newcastle can't do that, which is good.
You say you can’t do it , Well we shall see after the 115 charges hearing as I agree that you are not meant to do it , however clubs continue to flout the rules and get away with it .
 
Look at this fucking melter


View: https://x.com/invertthewing/status/1884977560934596789?s=46

Someone needs to take away his internet

He’s the worst person on the internet.

The absolute perfected zenith of permanently online Twitter tactico. 100% helmet. And he exemplifies everything I hate about our recently attached ‘fans’. Doesn’t like Spurs. Has likely never been within 500 miles of the Lane. But has decided that Ange is the latest hipster liquor; an aged Port that can only be appreciated by the most discerning of football fans.

In short, a cunt.
 
You say you can’t do it , Well we shall see after the 115 charges hearing as I agree that you are not meant to do it , however clubs continue to flout the rules and get away with it .
Right, but the City thing is a matter of retrospective punishment.

Newcastle cannot today do what City did and write "lol a zillion trillion pounds" on a cocktail napkin and have it counted as a legitimate sponsorship deal that they can purchase players against.
 
Again, do you honestly think a team, especially one as big as Liverpool (Who had won the CL just 3 short years before this transfer) would be sat around in a meeting room going "so, we have a £40m budget this window, I know there's a lot of gaps to fill in the squad, but really what I want to do with half of that money is break our transfer record to destabilise Tottenham Hotspur"?

I'm sorry but you are full on tin foil hat if so. That's absolutely bananas thinking. There's not a single club on the fucking planet that conducts transfer business that way. They bought Keane coming off the back of his best ever season in a Spurs shirt and quickly found out they bought the wrong striker and it was Berbatov making Keane look shit hot, because all Keane had to do was work hard and feed Berbatov. Liverpool unfortunately did not have a Berbatov, so having the hard-running 10 was of absolutely no fucking use to them. It's not a conspiracy, Liverpool did poor due diligence and got stung.

Love that little jab about you rating Berbatov so highly, conveniently ignoring that the price United paid was the price Levy demanded they pay, hence why it took til the end of the window. Unless you're now arguing that Levy doesn't extract every last penny out of sales, I thought that was the one positive quality we unilaterally agreed on him having?
It was pretty common knowledge Ferguson used to buy from the PL better players to improve man U and also weaken other teams. It's not unreasonable to think other teams had the same tactic.
 
100% explains the Gray transfer. Was not at all opportunistic and only happened because his deal with Brentford fell through.

Sorry. Not meaning to be digging ya, but the club is full of bullshit and lies. And it needs calling out

Probably fair to say it was a surprise to all clubs to se Brentford so quickly off the mark - and unexpected as Brentford usually bought unknown players cheaply and the players showed why Brentford's id process was so good.

Problem is they found Gray wasn't quite sure of Brentford, was expecting a bigger club .... so Spurs quickly stepped in to highjack ,,,,,,, but I think he had been id'ed before but we hadn't expected him to go son early in that window as bigger clubs had more important tarhets to go for.

But Leeds needed to sell hence Gray went early in window.

Good purchase, even if the purchase process was a little unplanned and opportunistic
 
You are tying yourself into knots :

1. Liverpool were good at the time buying but made a mistake on Keane ?

2 Then you say they ought to have bought Berbatov as he was the better player

3 You have said that £30m was a high price for Berbatov .....

You keep on contradicting yourself. Berbatov was an excellent player, even if you didn't lappreciate him as much as I did. IMO pre Kane he was the best striker we had since possibly Sherringham !

and here's a reminder as its a european night for us tonight:

View: https://x.com/EuropaLeague/status/1884914453365608810

1. Can you point to where, in any of my posts, I said that Liverpool at the time were good at buying? They had a bunch of clangers that window, same window they brought in Riera and Dossena IIRC. They did get Mascherano though, fucking quality he was.
2. Yes, they should have, he was the better player.
3. £32m wasn't "high" for Berbatov, it was about right. You can go back and look at transfer fees for similarly talented players at the time if you're too young to know what a high fee actually was in 2008, you don't need to break your back bending over to convince us all how much you loved him.

I have at no point said Berbatov wasn't an excellent player, merely stating a fact that we got very good value for money at the time for what at the time was a very good striker. You're either very young and haven't got the frame of reference to understand 2008 transfer fees or you've simply not got the wherewithal to understand that your favourite player wasn't worth £100m irrespective of what era they played in.
 
Pretty sure in that instance Liverpool let us work out the terms with Porto and then told them we'd match their offer, once it came down to a choice it was out of our hands, he was never going to pick us over them.
That's why I fear the same happening here, Woolwich/Utd just waiting for us to figure out the right price for them before they tell Bayern they'll match it.

Difference this time is Tel is the one we’ve been chasing for 2 years, whereas last time that was Liverpool with Diaz
 
Difference this time is Tel is the one we’ve been chasing for 2 years, whereas last time that was Liverpool with Diaz
Meh, we'll absolutely get Diaz-ed here if Tel wants to go elsewhere. We'll see.

The point is, we're willing to meet the valuation here without unduly fucking about to save a penny.

It's reflective of Levy and his bullshit having taken on a more supervisory and less day-to-day role.

It's only our global budgeting and strategic positioning that sucks now, the day-to-day business is in the hands of football people.
 
It was pretty common knowledge Ferguson used to buy from the PL better players to improve man U and also weaken other teams. It's not unreasonable to think other teams had the same tactic.
The bolded is why what you're saying isn't necessarily relevant to what the chap I'm replying to is saying, because he's positing that Liverpool bought Keane with the sole purpose of weakening Spurs, and not for the purpose of strengthening Liverpool FC. Which is fucking bollocks.
 
Because using statistics can prove just about anything...it certainly can't tell us whether or not a player will "fit in " professialy and/ or socially...once AI gets its hands on the game...game over...
That's only the first part of the process though, to identify a skillset. Then you scout them. I fully expect that "scouting" is more than just sitting in the stands and watching them play. They'll also look into his character etc.

The stupid process was going out and buying players without doing that due diligence. The first player than springs to mind there is NDombele.

I don't know how the full process works, but that's my limited understanding of it. The key here is data "led." It's not the sum total of the process.
 
Meh, we'll absolutely get Diaz-ed here if Tel wants to go elsewhere. We'll see.

The point is, we're willing to meet the valuation here without unduly fucking about to save a penny.

It's reflective of Levy and his bullshit having taken on a more supervisory and less day-to-day role.

It's only our global budgeting and strategic positioning that sucks now, the day-to-day business is in the hands of football people.
The cynic in me think this is just typical levy , he knows Tel will end up going to a different club so he is just going through the motions , it’s the same every window so he can say “we tried our best”
 
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