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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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ILSpur said:
This entire discussion feels so much more overcomplicated than it needs to be.

Has Ange shown any ability to manage two highly-competitive competitions at the same time? No, in fact he has admitted (whether you believe it or not) that he thew the league so he could just manage one.

Will next year be even more difficult than this past year? Yes, there will be even more attention to our league form at the start of next year, and he will be under instant and significant pressure if things sour at the start. There will be no easy walks for us in CL.

Do we honestly think that Levy will be out splashing the cash to give everything we can to Ange? No.


Keep it simple. Next year will be significantly harder with even higher levels of pressure. NOTHING that has happened this season shows Ange's ability to manage this load of games. Based on this past season, unless we come shooting out of the gate in top form, the pressure will go from 0-100 in about 5 games.
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Very well put.

It's a cold decision to sack him, but it's the right one for the greater good of the Club.
 
Deuterz said:
Oh for fuck sake he’s answered these questions already and it’s a complete no. Angeball doesn’t exist, it’s just suicidal bullshit that got worked out months ago. We won a cup by playing the total opposite vs subpar opposition.

Wake up.
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Genuinely you are wasting your time it's like that trophy win irradiated all their critical faculties.




will smith mib GIF
 
latman said:
Very well put.

It's a cold decision to sack him, but it's the right one for the greater good of the Club.
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Sports enterprises, whatever sport it is, succeed by being ruthlessly results-oriented and merit based.

Posting 1 ppg, being in the bottom quartile of the league or its equivalent would never cut it for any prestigious sporting club in any nation.

Spurs must decide, are we better than this? Are we a prestigious sporting club or are we Spam, Palace, whomever... with our dreams being dreams level with theirs, stealing away with a Cup every 20 to 100 years and being statisfied.

Everyone knows Ange can't hack it. The defenses of him devolve only to him "deserving" more time, not that anyone expects him to do anything with it. You don't deserve anything after leading us down to 17th
 
Lol... some of the flouncing about in these last 15 pages has been truly wondrous to read. Grown men stamping their feet and threatening to leave the club because the bag bad Aussie is so owwible... :roflmao:

cry baby GIF


Almost enough to make me want Levy to change his mind and give Ange a big new contract just to see the melts. :D

Almost...
 
Richard Arlison said:
www.teamtalk.com

Tottenham players blame Pochettino training for injury list

A number of Tottenham players have privately expressed their concerns over Mauricio Pochettino's training sessions, according to reports.
www.teamtalk.com www.teamtalk.com
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Oh look, a sensationalist article from a tribal football clone site purely created to generate ad revenue quoting the fucking Daily Mail as its primary source that was published in... October 2018.....
Mostly wrong said:
Can you post literally one solitary shred of evidence that Poch suffered any manner of injury crisis in his first season at Spurs? Because I've checked and I'm pretty sure you can't.

Solid uno reverse trying to call me a liar, for calling out your....lies...
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I've gone ahead and helped you out by increasing the visibility of a crucial piece of information you clearly missed when you found that cracking bit of journalism.

You can just admit at any point you were completely talking out of your arse as well.
 
ILSpur said:
This entire discussion feels so much more overcomplicated than it needs to be.

Has Ange shown any ability to manage two highly-competitive competitions at the same time? No, in fact he has admitted (whether you believe it or not) that he thew the league so he could just manage one.

Will next year be even more difficult than this past year? Yes, there will be even more attention to our league form at the start of next year, and he will be under instant and significant pressure if things sour at the start. There will be no easy walks for us in CL.

Do we honestly think that Levy will be out splashing the cash to give everything we can to Ange? No.


Keep it simple. Next year will be significantly harder with even higher levels of pressure. NOTHING that has happened this season shows Ange's ability to manage this load of games. Based on this past season, unless we come shooting out of the gate in top form, the pressure will go from 0-100 in about 5 games.
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This is all true and is the strong case for Ange Out.

All I'm really saying is that if Ange has a plan to get older and deeper and more experienced as a squad, show some tactical flexibility especially away in Europe, be thoughtful and take the best medical advice into account on training and the like (and he has said some of this stuff publicly, this isn't pure fiction), I am willing to hear him out with an open mind and good faith.

The way he's managed the team his first two years here would not be suited to the challenge we face immediately in the coming months. But I have a lot more respect for the good he's done in attacking the challenges as they existed when he got the job. It's not post-hoc bullshit to say winning a trophy, any trophy, was item #1 on his to-do list. Reinventing a wretched, broken (and losing!) playing style was another. Turning over the squad and getting younger was another. He's done those things. What's next?

We need to be ruthless and put our absolute best foot forward for our coming challenges as they exist. Lots of reason for skepticism that Ange is that option. But taking a minute to think and listen is well earned and well worth it.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Oh look, a sensationalist article from a tribal football clone site purely created to generate ad revenue quoting the fucking Daily Mail as its primary source that was published in... October 2018.....

I've gone ahead and helped you out by increasing the visibility of a crucial piece of information you clearly missed when you found that cracking bit of journalism.

You can just admit at any point you were completely talking out of your arse as well.
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That link wasn’t the first season I was talking out my arse when I said first season. I eyeballed it but we had multiple injury crises under Geoff Scott
 
FightingIllini said:
This is all true and is the strong case for Ange Out.

All I'm really saying is that if Ange has a plan to get older and deeper and more experienced as a squad, show some tactical flexibility especially away in Europe, be thoughtful and take the best medical advice into account on training and the like (and he has said some of this stuff publicly, this isn't pure fiction), I am willing to hear him out with an open mind and good faith.

The way he's managed the team his first two years here would not be suited to the challenge we face immediately in the coming months. But I have a lot more respect for the good he's done in attacking the challenges as they existed when he got the job. It's not post-hoc bullshit to say winning a trophy, any trophy, was item #1 on his to-do list. Reinventing a wretched, broken (and losing!) playing style was another. Turning over the squad and getting younger was another.

We need to be ruthless and put our absolute best foot forward for our coming challenges as they exist. Lots of reason for skepticism that Ange is that option. But taking a minute to think and listen is well earned and well worth it.
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Some fucking excellent posts on this place tonight.

This is another one
 
I think I can understand why there is silence from the club despite so many rumours about Ange being likely sacked, as I believe that Levy is confident that he will have a replacement ready (but who?).

There were reports that Levy has already spoken to Frank and if that is true, then I think that Frank has accepted Levy’s terms.

However I do think that Frank isn’t Levy’s first choice and is only a backup option if Levy can’t get his preferred option.

Glasner has publicly stated that it’s 99% likely that he will be with CP next season. Why didn’t he state that it would be 100% likely. Has he given Levy (or another club) a chance to speak to him and offer a contract that he would happily accept?

I want Ange out as I don’t want to go through another season watching the same uninspiring football, but I want a better coach / manager to replace him. It might be Glasner or somebody else (that may be Levy’s first choice).

I am thankful for Ange’s part in helping us get a long awaited trophy but I don’t see us winning the CL or PL under him next season or any time after that.

Meanwhile I’m keeping my fingers crossed in hope of us getting a replacement soon.
 
kcspurs said:
Not sure why, the Ange fanboys have been braying that even someone who ended his second year with us in 17th place and earns 1 ppg over 2 seasons just needs more time, and we have to be patient.

It would only follow that they ought to be willing to give a new manager the start of a third season in order to have plenty of time to right the ship.
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They are already doing it, going at other coaches because they haven't won a trophy,avoiding all context to it while hailing Postecoglou as the greatest gift despite him having one of the worst league seasons in nearly a hundred years .
 
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