Yeah and them 18 years we're at a league 2 level or less
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Whilst other managers were still in College and busy getting their coaching badges.
You think Ange got his pro licence 30 years ago?
Unless you're a multi who was permabanned you're fairly recent to these parts so you may not remember how a small, but vicious, group of posters on here spent pretty much the entire Postecoglou era cunting off the manager and calling anyone who supported the then current manager of Spurs: "Angebois" or "Cultists".
These abusive bullies swore blind that "any half decent manager would have us flying up the table"
Another small, but entirely reasonable, humble, and strikingly handsome group of posters warned the bullies that it was more likely that injuries and an imbalanced squad low on genuine elite quality was the cause of Tottenham's woes and it was unlikely a change of manager would improve things much and, possibly could make things worse.
The latter group was proved entirely correct by the events of of the 2025/26 season but the abusive bullies, rather than acknowledge they may have been somewhat mistaken about the relative merits of a manager who finished Top 5 in his first season, and won Tottenham's first European Trophy in 40 years, instead doubled down and went so batshot crazy they spend much of their time shitting on said trophy as if its worthless.
Thus they went fully to the Dark Side, stopped being Tottenham fans and became Derangers.
Deranger (noun) : A Tottenham "supporter" whose primary objective is to denigrate, downplay or diminish the achievements of former Spurs manager Ange Postecoglou to the exclusion of all other considerations or priorities.
Here is a handy list of things Derangers like and don't like for reference:
It is interesting though. I've been making a list of things Derangers "like" and "don't like" and it makes fascinating reading.
Things Derangers Don't Like:
1) European Trophies.
2) Staying in the Premier League.
3) Managers who achieve the above.
4) Spurs fans who do like all of the above.
Things Derangers Do Like:
1) Relegation.
2) Calling managers who win things "fat useless cunts".
3) Calling every player in our squad "useless sacks of shit" then being surprised when they don't battle for top 3 likeSpaniel predicted in August.
4) Hanging around like moths in the thread of someone they hate for the crime of winning things and staying up.
One of the early signs of Derangement is posters who started off thinking Thomas Frank was going to be great simply because he wasn't Ange Postecoglou. This is the "any half-decent manager will have us flying up the table" formulation an example of which is here:
As time passes this develops into the realisation that things are now, actually, far worse. This is the time for normal healthy fans to realise they may have been wrong in their assessment of Tottenham's problems. They begin to wonder what those core issues might be a la here:
A normal healthy fan would also have remarked that injuries have been ruinous across two seasons and may be a core reason for our results. But the Dernager mentality won't allow rational thinking so they have to focus on the Boogeyman a la:
And turn on the players viciously a la:
SO Ange Postecoglou gets 5th and a European Trophy with these very same players but a Deranger can't/won't accept that. They are now officially gone. Their common sense completely suborned to irrational Derangement.
So, you see, me calling people "Derangers" isn't "Trumpian" it is psychoanalysis. It is a tragedy but an identifiable condition.
But it is treatable. You can, at any time, choose common sense. That's all it takes. I wish you all the best in your struggles with this awful disease.
I would take De Zerbis first 12 years of management over Postecoglous.
Its not even a comparison.
Not to mention De Zerbi is actually an innovator of the game, Postecoglou is an Imitator like a worse version of Brendan Rodgers
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De Zerbi is a big fan of Ange (he said so himself) and anything he does at Tottenham is the continuation of Ange's work at Spurs!
Explain.
Dumb troll shit is all it is. Some generic nice words which is all managers say about each other (it’s called politeness) and that equates to being a HUGE FAN the same way Pep was apparently loving Angeball. Load of shite.
You do realise De Zerbi was in the Premier league before Postecoglou.
Explain how anything he does is a continuation off Postecoglous work and not Frank's.
Yeah and? This isn't a race to the Premier League ffs, they were both managing in the CL when he said that.
Because Frank wasn't successful, whilst Ange was - this isn't Frank's squad bar a couple of players.
This squad has been built very much for Ange and him and De Zerbi have similar front footed philosophies so whatever De Zerbi has done is merely a continuation of what Ange started.
So successful man, that’s why he ended up sacked after all his success and then ended up having to slum it out at Nottingham Forest fighting relegation before getting sacked again.
I know you're addicted to losing and losers but you should get to know what success actually is!
Ange Postecoglou himself wasn't successful..... Tottenham Hotspur football club was successful in our pursuit of a European trophy and he happened to not get sacked by the time we lifted the trophy.
The squad has been built by an under qualified, good youth scout in Lange and an Italian fixer in Paratici.
De Zerbi will likely face the same troubles unless Enic has truly changed its spots.
De Zerbi and Ange are not alike
I know you're addicted to losing and losers but you should get to know what success actually is!
Pretty sure if I got sacked from my job for doing really badly and then got sacked from the job I went for straight after I wouldn’t consider that to be success. Even if I did do something quite impressive just before my ass was kicked to the curb.
He’s sacked and has suffered massive reputational damage, spin it all you want the footballing world doesn’t view him as successful.
What?!! What are we doing here?
I mean yeah but you're not really engaging with my points here or anything.
That's because you view things through the prism of the world of Deuterz and not the lens of a football manager or indeed the footballing world. You trying to force this narrative about Nottingham Forest like anyone gives a fuck, no-one cares what he did at Forest, the conversation is about Tottenham, nice try though.
If a manager manages to do something for the first time in 41 years with said club he can only be considered a success no matter how much you want to dress it up.
What will be on Ange's record is a 17th placed finish and 22 defeats fine. What will also be on Ange's record is a Europa League win and seeing as you don't want to rate that bizarrely there's also a 5th place finish...I make that an undoubted success as a Tottenham Hotspur manager.
What??...he got sacked for being shit,even with a European trophy.....i mean how shit do you need to be, to win a European trophy that qualifies you for champions league and you still get sacked.What?!! What are we doing here?
I mean yeah but you're not really engaging with my points here or anything.
Your saying Anges 18 years of management prior to De Zerbis are worth something.... I dont think they are.
You also think De Zerbi will play similar to Ange like he is some pioneer to the game...when De Zerbi was in prem before Ange
Such a success. Sacked.
It’s not the Deuterz prism it’s the football world prism. You jokers want to pretend it’s objectively some huge accomplishment, where were his big job offers then eh? If it was so obviously a mistake to get rid and he’d been a clear success at spurs, why was his only offer from a club fighting the drop owned by his mate?
Shall I tell you the job offers actually successful spurs managers get? PSG. Usually if you succeed at spurs you get a step up not a huge step down.
I’m right you’re wrong and the top clubs in Europe agree with me. Deal with it.