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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
No wonder the club is in a relegation battle, some supporters even want us to be like Wigan, win a cup and get relegated is good news to them, so we end up near the bottom of Division One, they want to be like the Wigan supporters and remember a trophy in a glorious moment during a season when they were shit.

Two seasons creeping closer and closer to relegation is what I want the club to address, once that's sorted out, then I'm happy to talk about winning a trophy.
 
The Derangers are even discussing this thread on the De Zerbi thread.

Which, again, perfectly sums up the Deranger mind set :D
 
McFlash said:
Man, we spent donkeys slating Woolwich for considering a top four finish as being a success, instead of actually winning something.
Literally since Wenger.

And now you're shitting on a European trophy by saying that you'd rather be like Woolwich?
I think you're supporting the wrong club man because we've always been a cup team and that's where the glory is, it's certainly not in finishing 4th FFS.
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We beat on Arse for being happy to just finish 4th.
The aim of any club with aspirations should be to finish as high as possible AND win cups.
NEVER one or the other.
 
Shadydan said:
Well we chased them out of here so they need somewhere else to continue their obsession 🤭
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Matt1882 said:
We beat on Arse for being happy to just finish 4th.
The aim of any club with aspirations should be to finish as high as possible AND win cups.
NEVER one or the other.
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Superb two post juxtapostion.

The Deranger-in-Chief is very chirpy on the main board at the moment. Maybe he'll even go to a game and support the lads in the relegation battle his wishes have doomed us to :rolleyes:
 
McCOYS said:
No wonder the club is in a relegation battle, some supporters even want us to be like Wigan, win a cup and get relegated is good news to them, so we end up near the bottom of Division One, they want to be like the Wigan supporters and remember a trophy in a glorious moment during a season when they were shit.
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Now how in God's name did you arrive at that conclusion?
McCOYS said:
Two seasons creeping closer and closer to relegation is what I want the club to address, once that's sorted out, then I'm happy to talk about winning a trophy.
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If you can't take any joy out of an historic win, in the midst of a shitty season then maybe you need to re-evaluate a few things?

We're all concerned about our form, but to actually refuse to enjoy a bright moment when it's given to you?

You said in an earlier post that 2 things can be true. Maybe heed your own words?
 
McCOYS said:
I've posted too much in this thread about a bloke that I no longer give a rat's ass about, so now I'm off to pop my blister.
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15 minutes later - with no other posts on the thread…..
McCOYS said:
I like the footballing part of winning a trophy when it's well played, I don't much like a trophy at the end of a shitty season such as the one last year, it reminds me of 22 loses and an awful match against a very shitty Manchester United team. IMO there's nothing to like about that, even if it has gained a trophy and ticked a box in the actually point of football.

Is there something in that which is difficult to understand for you? If so ask a supplementary question and I'm happy to answer but I don't want to continue arguing about Postecoglou. I don't mind a discussion about how the trophy reminds me of an awful season, rather than a great one.

One last thing, you do know two things can be true right?
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Fantastic work - even for you man.
 
McCOYS said:
I've posted too much in this thread about a bloke that I no longer give a rat's ass about, so now I'm off to pop my blister.
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That blister must be a doozy!
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McFlash said:
Don't disagree with that at all mate.
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No one would. It's a massive straw man. Not surprising as the bloke you're replying to described the idea of of going to Bilbao to watch Spurs win a European Trophy as "as appealing as aids"

Just because he'd spent two year cunting off the manager and anyone who dared support said manager. :rolleyes:
 
Mrs Perryman said:
Just shows you how statistics can be misleading - the number of games played completely skews the percentage.
No-one can argue that Bill Nick is our most successful manager of all time.
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It might be a bit pedantic but , these things matter :

Possibly a “not” missing from your last sentence , may I respectfully suggest.

(But we all know what you meant. 100 %) .

( I just wouldn’t want anyone to get the wrong ideas about you . )
 
Matt1882 said:
We beat on Arse for being happy to just finish 4th.
The aim of any club with aspirations should be to finish as high as possible AND win cups.
NEVER one or the other.
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Look at the historical facts.

When Arse and Citeh were neck and neck for the title and our next game was against Citeh.
75% on here were barracking for a Citeh win just to stop Arse and when Ange came out and said
"I always play to win", most on here are jumping on his back for not being a true Spurs supporter!

Then move forward to the injury crisis.
We've got a dozen or so first team players out injured. We're still in THAT CUP race.
As per his philosophy, Ange still played to win every game.
But, as a pragmatist, he concentrated on keeping the first team players fit for the cup games and largely relied on youngsters in the PL games.

And it worked!
We won THAT CUP!
I always win in my second season!

What would you prefer?
Win THAT CUP and finish 17th?
or
Don't win the cup and finish 7th or 8th?
 
Matt1882 said:
We beat on Arse for being happy to just finish 4th.
The aim of any club with aspirations should be to finish as high as possible AND win cups.
NEVER one or the other.
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Yes but that isn't the stated ambition of the club hierarchy. According to The Management top 4 is our station in life and that's only because it gives them Champions League money. Winning trophies is not a KPI.

Its been done to death but when the injuries came, top 4 was out of the question, and the only path to Champions League was via a Europa Cup. Postecoglou risked it all and got it

Now I'm not suggesting he aimed for 17th, in fact its certain he didn't, but perhaps 8-12 th an that would have been enough to keep his job. Alas it didn't happen and he paid the price.
 
Auscock said:
Then move forward to the injury crisis.
We've got a dozen or so first team players out injured. We're still in THAT CUP race.
As per his philosophy, Ange still played to win every game.
But, as a pragmatist, he concentrated on keeping the first team players fit for the cup games and largely relied on youngsters in the PL games.

And it worked!
We won THAT CUP!
I always win in my second season!

What would you prefer?
Win THAT CUP and finish 17th?
or
Don't win the cup and finish 7th or 8th?
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That only covered approx 4 PL games.

You're completely ignoring the fact that it would have been finished 17th and not win the cup or finished 17th.

Winning a cup did not excuse any other aspects. Roberto Di Matteo won the Champions League.
 
CJJ said:
That only covered approx 4 PL games.

You're completely ignoring the fact that it would have been finished 17th and not win the cup or finished 17th.

Winning a cup did not excuse any other aspects. Roberto Di Matteo won the Champions League.
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I'm not sure if that was approx 4 games or not, but because it didn't happen, we don't know if we'd still finish 17th and also no Cup.

However we do know we finished 17th and in fact did win a Cup.

It is also true that winning a cup didn't excuse the 17th. We know this because Postecoglou was sacked because of it. Levy literally said so.

Di Matteo had a squad that was far superior to Postecoglou's.
 
Derangers are now so deranged they’ve turned the De Zerbi thread into a full on Postecoglou review. CJJ CJJ has even taken the time to compose a song set to Elton John's "Candle In the Wind" - all about Postecoglou. :roflmao:

This is really the most fascinating clinical psychological study. I've never seen such a small but extremely vocal group of people spoil themselves on a public forum so embarrassingly before. Incredible scenes!

25 to go 😍
 
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