Sounds like a wing-back?
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Player Micky van de Ven
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Sounds like a wing-back?
I reckon if he went to one of the mega-clubs he would end up playing a fair bit at full-back, yeah. A bit like Kounde at Barca who plays a lot at RB. I think in his first season under Ange he showed how effective he can be at CB in an attacking system, though.
Yes, Ange deployed him perfectly and his partnership with Romero was ideal.
Romero built from the back, and provided the pass through the opponents midfield.
VDV was there to chase down through balls and put pressure on runners. He was also able to step out from CB into midfield areas and allow our mids to push up the pitch. This worked best when Holjberg was able to drop in and back him up in case of a lost ball.
Dragusin / Davies / Grey didn't share any of the same attributes as Romero/VDV and hence they made costly mistakes.
Frank allowed our CB's to be put under pressure. Spurs sat deeper. This prevented though balls, but in turn put more pressure on the CBs. Instead of playing the offside trap, or out running strikers - they were now asked to defend crosses, deep in the 18 yard box, and position themselves off the ball to block shots rather than attempt a tackle in a dangerous area.
Looks likely that VDV and Romero will be off in the summer - so will be interesting to see what profile of defender Di Zerbi wants. Its essential that the primary AND backups can play the same style and formation.
No wonder ENIC dont want to sell up
Such a huge risk selling both your starting CBs though.
No wonder ENIC dont want to sell up
In normal conditions, yes. But when you’ve been in all-time worst ever PL-sides form for 18 months, not really. The squad needs to be blown up whatever division we’re in.
Vertonghen and Alderweireld I’d agree.
These two who have been part of a consistently dreadful team, have exhibited very poor attitude and clearly don’t want be here, I’d say much less of a risk!
I can't even decide if Romero and VDV are good players anymore.
Romero is too erratic, goes charging off out of position at least once every game. Misses a lot of matches every season through suspension. And let's face it when an International break is on the horizon has both eyes on that.
With VDV this season I've noticed he is actually pretty shit on the ball. He shines when he is asked to chase players down. His defending outside that is questionable.
I agree with others these two probably need to go.
If we were one or two pieces from being a top side you would want to keep them but we are miles off. The next 2 seasons are about stabilizing the ship and developing the young players to see what we have got there. We need solid defenders like the pair at Forest rather than World Cup winners right now.
Goldbridge kicking off that VDV linked to Utd. Think VDV is a bit too big for his boots if he thinks a top club is coming in.
Those two at Forest are in a relegation fight too but when I see them I think they are good players. People think the same about Romero and VDV.
He is a Hollywood player so will get lots of offers. Romero as well. I’d happily take a bet a backline of Vuskovic and Danso will be more solid than those two. Romero is erratic and VDV’s head is all over the place but VDV has insane pace and Romero is stylish.
You were doing so well for your first 24 words!!!
Big clubs will definitiley come in for VDV. He is a good asset for big teams with a high line. Wonder how much we can get if relegated.
Agreed, but I do want to see these players with a proper run under de zerbi, weve see how mch better the same players look under a proper manager already...
Thats fair... but people are saying we need to change our entire back 5... thats huge upheavel in one season...
Romero is a beast when wearing the La Albiceleste. For us, we only see that player occasionally. He hasn't been a great leader either and like you said misses quite a few matches through suspensions albeit I feel he is refereed very differently from other players. I definitely think he will leave this summer regardless of whether we stay up or get relegated. Not sure what fee would be but would imagine something around 55m-60m. As for VDV. I don't even think he's a CB. He is poor in the air and doesn't have good positional sense. I would try converting him to a LB but in terms of if he will leave. My guess is that like Romero, regardless of our PL status, I can see him moving on for a similar fee to a top club that plays with a high line. Barca or PSG.
That’s a meaningless reply.