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It feels like you are trying to find the best in Poch. I know because I am doing the same. I feel your pain.Its sad we have fallen apart like this, I am reserving judgement until this time next season when if we are in this position he has to go and we try someone else, if we are 6th but every match we looked impressive and showed genuine improvement throughout season then he stays
I am always a blame players kind of person in general but its very sad with a team so young and easier to manipulate than old stagers he cant keep them motivated, with that said old stagers would have seen seasons like this before maybe and would still put in a shift as not be as disheartened, who knows its just a sad end to season
Maybe don't sing that song?Summing up.............
I paid £40 to sing that Arsehole Wenger is coming for a bunch of young children.............Which now they will have nightmares!
Strangely prescient post in so much that I imagined today's game had this as its soundtrack.
Am in Bangkok and was watching the game tonight with a random fellow Spurs fan who was a bit pissed off about things to say the least. Thought his veins were gonna pop. He consoled himself with a young Thai lady who lives to please, got in a taxi with her and went on his way, laughing his head off. So I think the moral of the story is to do that.
What I don't get is how he can be so heavily criticised for his first season if we finish where we are now in 6th. Anything above that would be an over achievement with this current squad.
Explain why Tim and AVB were getting all sorts of vitriolic abuse from our fans last season if the squad is indeed not good enough then?
Ted Rodgers 3-2-1 would have been better and Levy canThat's spurs problem (post 2012) in a nutshell. Toss in the comical 4231
That one is all on Levy and Baldini - they allowed us to get raped for the Bale money.£26m to Lamela
£26m to Soldado
£17m to Paulinho
£69m of the £82m Gareth Bale sale flushed down the drain
That's spurs problem (post 2012) in a nutshell. Toss in the comical 4231
We looked clueless. For Stoke, that is probably as good a result as they will get in ages. What are we going to do next week against a team that actually need a result?
Every team bare Chelsea can list those sorts of results every season. Utd just lost 3 on the bounce and look at the money they spent and the players they have.So you mean that taking more than 5pts from Palace H, Palace A, Stoke H, Stoke A, Burnley H, Burnley A would have been punching above our weight?
Every team bare Chelsea can list those sorts of results every season. Utd just lost 3 on the bounce and look at the money they spent and the players they have.
That sort of comment is exactly why we sack so many managers. If it were as straight forward and easy as us beating everyone below us every week then no one would bother watching. Wed just tally up the points at the start of the season and divy out the medals.
We've had bad results this season (as with every season). Never said or implied that we hadn't.
As far as I'm concerned Poch has achieved his primary goals this season. He's assessed the squad. Clearly weeded out that bad eggs and those not willing to pull in the same direction. And he's managed to do that while maintaining an unexpected top 4 challenge which fell away several weeks ago but as I said it was uNexpected. And he reached a cup final.
Next season is when I will start looking at him more critically as that is a fair time to do so.
Fans that are moaning that we aren't going to get top 4 this season and that we've had bad performances clearly don't remember what the last couple of years have been like and for the most part (bar last season) have been with better players.
And for the last time I have no problem with criticising the manager when is genuinely warranted but after every single loss there are the same people banging the same drum and only giving a very one sided and overlay weighted opinion.
You give no benefit of the doubt. If Poch had been playing Chiriches week in week out then your gripes would be more in place. The fact that he clearly hasn't had him near the squad for the majority of the season suggests he's not deemed him worth a play. So if he brings him in when we've clearly got injury problems at the back it's obvious he's A) seen something in training, a change of attitude perhaps or B) he's simply had to make a call.
The problem is the minute u comment I wouldn't even need to read it to know that the underlying theme would be Poch Out. No reasoned argument or attempt to see it from any other view point.
Why will you only start being critical of him next season? I'm expecting the apologists to write off next season as it will be his signings first season and they'll need a year to bed it, blah blah blah.
Every team bare Chelsea can list those sorts of results every season. Utd just lost 3 on the bounce and look at the money they spent and the players they have.
That sort of comment is exactly why we sack so many managers. If it were as straight forward and easy as us beating everyone below us every week then no one would bother watching. Wed just tally up the points at the start of the season and divy out the medals.
We've had bad results this season (as with every season). Never said or implied that we hadn't.
As far as I'm concerned Poch has achieved his primary goals this season. He's assessed the squad. Clearly weeded out that bad eggs and those not willing to pull in the same direction. And he's managed to do that while maintaining an unexpected top 4 challenge which fell away several weeks ago but as I said it was uNexpected. And he reached a cup final.
Next season is when I will start looking at him more critically as that is a fair time to do so.
Fans that are moaning that we aren't going to get top 4 this season and that we've had bad performances clearly don't remember what the last couple of years have been like and for the most part (bar last season) have been with better players.
And for the last time I have no problem with criticising the manager when is genuinely warranted but after every single loss there are the same people banging the same drum and only giving a very one sided and overlay weighted opinion.
You give no benefit of the doubt. If Poch had been playing Chiriches week in week out then your gripes would be more in place. The fact that he clearly hasn't had him near the squad for the majority of the season suggests he's not deemed him worth a play. So if he brings him in when we've clearly got injury problems at the back it's obvious he's A) seen something in training, a change of attitude perhaps or B) he's simply had to make a call.
The problem is the minute u comment I wouldn't even need to read it to know that the underlying theme would be Poch Out. No reasoned argument or attempt to see it from any other view point.
If you don't want to win every game we play, I'm a better supporter than you are.
I usually respect other people's ways of supporting this club, but not being bothered about losing is beyond the pale.