You dont get pissy about your view that the team and manager are deliberately losing games because they cant be fucked?
But you take issue when people get pissy about us playing shit?
How truely fucked up.
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You dont get pissy about your view that the team and manager are deliberately losing games because they cant be fucked?
But you take issue when people get pissy about us playing shit?
How truely fucked up.
So ur plan is sack, rinse, repeat. If only the board were wise enough to take that view.....ah wait a minute....
If we'd won all those games we'd practically be top. That's a ludicruous expectation. The best we can expect is around 60-70 points. For that level, we are going to lose games. If we lose to teams below us, we're shit and underachieving. If we're not beating the best teams in the league, we're not progressing. Maybe we should beat everyone every week?
We're in one of the best and most competitive leagues in the world. There is no shame in losing to teams like Palace or Stoke. I recall Stoke beat City at the Etihad this season. It happens. Every season. All the time.
Once again I will say it. I saw NOBODY moaning when we signed those players. Why? Soldado was prolific in La Liga. Lamela was prolific in Serie A. Paulinho looked excellent for Brazil. You'd be hard pushed to find someone who predicted they would all flop. Or any of them for that matter. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Let's not all pretend that we knew they were shit signings. Everyone is a scout these days once a player fails to impress. "I knew he wouldn't suit this league" - "He's too lightweight for this league". Fuck me we were writing off Modric after year one.
Can we all stop acting like we actually knew what was going to happen, saying we pissed the Bale money away, and move on? It was almost 24 months ago now. We've had 3 transfer windows since we sold him and spent the cash.
It really has very little to do with Pochettino. He's signed some of his own players which he doesn't use. Capoue. Stambouli. Use them as examples of his failings.
Dawson with a towering header over Fazio followed by Huddlestone nutmegging bentaleb before hitting a 30yrd thunderbolt into the top corner
What is the plan then? Just leave everything as is, cross your fingers and hope everything works out ok? Do we trust a manager with money for new players when he can't tease out more than half a dozen good performances from a squad of international players in a season? Do we keep playing players who quite obviously give no fucks? Do we continue to ostracise our captain and vice captain?
I've no fucking clue what we should do and I'm not paid to come up with a solution. I'd love to hear from someone at the club who is. Levy or Poch need to give us some answers and quickly. Confidence in our hierarchy is draining from me by the day.
I was delighted with those signings and I don't think they are bad players. I think they're very good. So why aren't the playing well?
We stick with Poch who has done a good job this season despite the hissy fitting at the resent results and let him create a squad to play the football he produced at soton and has produced in glimpses this season when things have clicked.
The signs are there if you chose to take note of the positives and see what he is capable of producing with a squad of HIS type of players.
I'm done with this thread now. I've made my points quite clearly and given a reasoned argument. Anything more I say will just be repeating myself and quite honestly if you can't see where I'm coming from there's nothing more I can say to change that.
Oh, I didn't say I knew they'd fail - just that I knew they were overpriced. That they'd all fail is a mystery.
Paulinho suprises me the most. Whereas you can say Lamela Ade - e.g. - have had some serious demons to fight in their personal lives, Paulinho was a right box-to-box midfielder and very tenacious too before joining us. Whatever the price of the fee, he's just collapsed completely as a footballer.
Capoue was signed under AVB
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So, we accentuate the positives. And ignore the negatives. Sounds plausible. That'll work. Thanks for your participation in this thread. Sorry you won't read that now you've gone. Effective debating method you've got there. Shout "I'm right", then run like fuck.
Great post mate. Capoue was part of the magnificent seven I think so he can be judged on Stambouli and Fazio (both alternatives to his initial targets at that).
I've been debating this for 2 days now mate. Hardly a shout and run.
I've not accentuated anything. And I've not ignored anything either. Read my posts. You'll find there's plenty in this thread to address any questions you might have about my opinion. I'm not repeating myself any further is all I'm saying.
Wanted Mussachio - Got Fazio
Wanted Scheiderlein - Got Stambouli
TBF, it's not MP who needs to be "judged" on those signings.
Has Poch actually ever said he wanted those players?
At least they got the 1st letter right with the second one. That's progress. Things are looking up imvho
These were the players we actively pursued, unsuccesfully.
Of which we instead in 11th hour signed a defenders, who is not in MP's starting line-up at all and a midfielder who is barely in match day squads.
BTW not saying to defend MP particulary - just to slate Levy. That's all
Ahhhh....so taking more than 5 points means taking all 18?
Sorry stopped reading. Respond to what Ive said or dont bother.
Expected more sense from you.
Why? You're not that new here.
Anyway, back to the plot. Which bits of my quote would you like me to expand upon? Which bits made no sense?