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Why can’t we trap a ball?
Always spins off us and every other team we play are concise in their ball control and passing.

Which brings me to my next question/
Why can’t we pass? Did you see Leeds? Everton? Watch any game and teams can pass to each other.

Is our “tactic” counter attack football?
Because we aren’t very good at that.....still 17 nothing passes to get to the edge of the box while the oppo are bish bash bosh, get a shot off.

Why is our team so slow?
When will this hell end?

It Jose's brand of football, keep it tight at the back and hit on the break, we dont have the midfield ATM though to move the ball quickly on the counter, he wont change his style.
 
We are going to win fuck all because ultimately and despite bringing in a manager with a winning mentality, our players just don't have the mentality to succeed.
And the doubt and frustration has spread, so every time we face any kind of adversity like shipping a goal or feeling an injustice was done to us like a free kick being taken 5 yards further up, we shrivel up and die on the pitch.
It's clear we have talent in the side enough to win some kind of cup, but I'm not sure that the winning mentality is something that can be taught.
He clearly brought Hoijberg and Doherty in to instill some leadership qualities, but if the whole team just wilts like spinach in a Sag Aloo it doesn't really matter.

When the confidence is high and we are a couple of goals up we look like Brazil, the football is free flowing and the smiles are on the faces, but when the heat is on this unit melts into a puddle.

I'm starting to think we need to sell Harry, try and keep Sonny and re-invest the funds wisely like our future depends on it, as its getting to the crunch time.

Our squad value is depreciating rapidly, players like Dele who at peak were estimated around 80m, well you would be lucky to get even half of that right now.

I stick by what I said last night, I think Jose will be gone inside 10 games. I don't think he can shape this lot into his image, and perhaps the fear factor surrounding him and opposition is gone now, his best days clearly in the rear view mirror.

I get that this is negative as fuck, and some of you will be thinking "calm down you melt it's one fucking game"

But I saw all the signs of last season today, we gave up with ZERO fight.

Don't see a way forward for this team or manager.
 
Comes down to how the players are coached and how theyre being set up in my opinion.

Theres no passages of play. No exciting one touch stuff. Because that's risky.

We are being negatively risk free in the hope that we can keep it tight, nick a goal and either then aim to beat a team on the counter or keep a clean sheet.

Just look at City at home. They absolutely battered us and really should have won and they even missed a penalty. There were no real exciting plays from Spurs, no excitement in our play, but we kept it at 0-0 for long enough that when City got down to 10 men and we went 1-0 up, we only then had one aim.

Its a shame really.

Because we have good players. But they are players that aren't suited to a system that's now been bestowed upon them. They genuinely need to get back to basics, the same way Redknapp came in and just told the players to play some fucking football.


But...

We knew all this coming in. We called it. Mourinho hasn't played good football in years. He was never going to transform a team that wasn't playing good football before into a team playing good football. He isn't that kind of manager.

We were told he was a serial winner and that he'd win stuff here so ultimately that's how he should be judged. He needed two fucking replays in the FA Cup before getting knocked out by the worst team in the Premier League and then got hammered at the first hurdle of the knockouts by Leipzig.

Let's see what he can do this year. Its not going to be pretty, but hey, we expected it.
 
We are going to win fuck all because ultimately and despite bringing in a manager with a winning mentality, our players just don't have the mentality to succeed.
And the doubt and frustration has spread, so every time we face any kind of adversity like shipping a goal or feeling an injustice was done to us like a free kick being taken 5 yards further up, we shrivel up and die on the pitch.
It's clear we have talent in the side enough to win some kind of cup, but I'm not sure that the winning mentality is something that can be taught.
He clearly brought Hoijberg and Doherty in to instill some leadership qualities, but if the whole team just wilts like spinach in a Sag Aloo it doesn't really matter.

When the confidence is high and we are a couple of goals up we look like Brazil, the football is free flowing and the smiles are on the faces, but when the heat is on this unit melts into a puddle.

I'm starting to think we need to sell Harry, try and keep Sonny and re-invest the funds wisely like our future depends on it, as its getting to the crunch time.

Our squad value is depreciating rapidly, players like Dele who at peak were estimated around 80m, well you would be lucky to get even half of that right now.

I stick by what I said last night, I think Jose will be gone inside 10 games. I don't think he can shape this lot into his image, and perhaps the fear factor surrounding him and opposition is gone now, his best days clearly in the rear view mirror.

I get that this is negative as fuck, and some of you will be thinking "calm down you melt it's one fucking game"

But I saw all the signs of last season today, we gave up with ZERO fight.

Don't see a way forward for this team or manager.

Spot on. Tired of people responding with ‘shut up you melt, it’s only one game’. Writing has been on the wall for two years.

Amateurs running a multi million pound business. The documentary - edited as it is - reflects the general hit and hope philosophy of those in charge.
 
The margin for error with Mourinho's tactics is so small - if Kane gets his studs to that Son cross first half we get to play the rest of the game on the counter and probably win 2-0.......

issue is that if the opposition score first we are absolutely fucked

That is quite a serious issue wouldn't you say? Such a major regression from recent seasons and in such a short time.

It doesn't help that Woolwich look like tearing it up and Arteta has won more trophies in 6 months than we have in over 2 decades.
 
Sissoko - the poor sod has been lambasted on here over and over again. Even his supporters support in an ironic kind of way.

*looks at own avatar*

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I don't know the answer to the problems, but I can see that we have no balance to our team and no creativity. Our purchases haven't been the best, in so much that they don't appear to be what we actually need. I'm hoping that they will bed in and we see what Jose is trying to achieve, but the hope is dwindling with each game. With regards to Sissoko, I thought he got unnecessary criticism when he did play well, but I think he has been pretty poor this year, as mentioned, he can't even do the basics.
 
I don't think I've ever felt so depressed after just one opening day loss. It's the fact that so many things seem so wrong and disjointed with the team I see little cause for optimism. Seeing the Amazon sideshow doesn't help either.

Creativity in midfield is non-existent (only Lo Celso seems to be able to get his foot on the ball) and our forward line just aren't getting enough of the ball consequently.

The transfer recruitment thus far has been no where near enough. For me, it's just fucking pointless hiring the likes of Jose if you're not willing to throw some money at the team. The demise of this team is painful.
 
I don't think I've ever felt so depressed after just one opening day loss.

This.

I have come to the conclusion that following Spurs is like having sex without the climax.
It's fun for a while but ultimately a massive let down.

I'm going to watch non-League this evening. £6. Looking forward to it far more than Thursday!
 
Why can’t we trap a ball?
Always spins off us and every other team we play are concise in their ball control and passing.

Which brings me to my next question/
Why can’t we pass? Did you see Leeds? Everton? Watch any game and teams can pass to each other.

Is our “tactic” counter attack football?
Because we aren’t very good at that.....still 17 nothing passes to get to the edge of the box while the oppo are bish bash bosh, get a shot off.

Why is our team so slow?
When will this hell end?
Come on Sammy, head up mate. This hell will end at the end of this season if Levy's plan of bringing in a trophy winning manager doesn't bear fruit.
The team will dismantle, Jose will resign or get sacked and Daniel will be no more. Trust me, I'm a doctor.😎
 
The reason we can’t trap a ball or pass is we have chosen to preference other characteristics like speed or power, it only takes a couple players to make it seem like it is all out players, Son, Moura, Alli etc. I know what you mean though, I remember watching us vs Dortmund one time and they could all seem to do a simple pass and control On another level to us even though we had the more expensive squad at the time.
We can counter attack and we are actually very good at it, in the first half it almost worked a few times.
 
One of the first things Sissoko did when he came on was kick a throw in we won in their half straight out of play instead of passing it back to his man

5 yard throw to his feet. A man who cost us £30million. And it’s not viewed as an anomaly- it is just the type of thing he does.

Meanwhile they have Ham-es on their right side of midfield looking like a footballer.

Says it all really.
Rodriguez destroyed our shit-cunt midfield

And we could have signed him out of course. Instead we got a Saints reject and people expect us to play like Barca 2011
 
We didn't look well prepared for the season, our players looked shocked that it wasn't still pre season and that the opposition might actually try.

We need to make more use of set pieces, we are still getting loads of corners and scoring from them occasionally would completely change games.

The thing about Mourinho's football is its always shite, which makes the results even more polarising.....there's nothing else to take positives from other than nicking a win

That’s been the case since the days of Redknapp 11 years ago. Evidently it is not something worked on by a succession of managers
 
I really feel like we could do with the old thundercunt Mourinho rather than the Mr Nice Guy, Jose's brother Mourinho that the Amazon doc makes it seem like we have.

At what point does he lose his shit with the players for clearly paying fuck all attention to the words coming out of his mouth? How long will he persist with Sissoko buffooning around midfield just because he's a top bloke and popular in the dressing room?

I'm sick of hearing all the right noises from our players and then seeing them on the pitch sauntering round cluelessly, whatever you think about Mourinho's style and tactics, I'm fucking certain he isn't telling them to make no effort, pass like shit and not threaten the opposition goal.

Watching the doc I can't help but feel all the fancy facilities have made the players TOO pampered, sat there in a dressing room that probably cost more than most of our houses. What are they striving for? Many not good enough for a step up to the next perceived level of club, they know that this is as good as it gets for them so might as well just get comfy.

Righ now I'd be happier signing players that see us as a stepping stone, at least they will be busting a gut to perform and earn that next move. Better than someone who sees us as their peak and is happy to just plod on with no ambition.
 
Why can’t we trap a ball?
Always spins off us and every other team we play are concise in their ball control and passing.

Which brings me to my next question/
Why can’t we pass? Did you see Leeds? Everton? Watch any game and teams can pass to each other.

Is our “tactic” counter attack football?
Because we aren’t very good at that.....still 17 nothing passes to get to the edge of the box while the oppo are bish bash bosh, get a shot off.

Why is our team so slow?
When will this hell end?

100% mate.

It's like we can do nothing well which for me always talks of an unhappy bunch because it is so much more than just lacking confidence.

It needs a very quick solution.
 
Perhaps we’ve reached our level and the quicker some of our fanbase accept that and lose the idea of grandeur that quite a few think we have or should have the better.

Everton at home has been 3 points for almost the whole Prem era. Grandeur? What the fuck are you talking about.
 
Why can’t we trap a ball?
Always spins off us and every other team we play are concise in their ball control and passing.

Which brings me to my next question/
Why can’t we pass? Did you see Leeds? Everton? Watch any game and teams can pass to each other.

Is our “tactic” counter attack football?
Because we aren’t very good at that.....still 17 nothing passes to get to the edge of the box while the oppo are bish bash bosh, get a shot off.

Why is our team so slow?
When will this hell end?
It's because of Poch, Sammy. That chubby fucker took us from CL finalists to relegation fodder. Am I getting warm?

You didn't say you were seeking genuine answers so I figured this was a 'Sammy-question' leading somewhere. I hope I got the right answer. I gotta be close.
 
When was the last time we really imposed ourselves as a side on another team? We used to strangle the life out of our opposition and steam roller them.

Has that happened since Dembele left?!

Our approach to games is depressing.
 
This.

I have come to the conclusion that following Spurs is like having sex without the climax.
It's fun for a while but ultimately a massive let down.

I'm going to watch non-League this evening. £6. Looking forward to it far more than Thursday!
Same here (although Mourinho is main reason I don't watch Spurs).
Our local 1st team is £8. Reserves only £3. Been to all homes so far. seating area shut but plenty of space for us 100 max speccys. Let's go.
 
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