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Management Ange Postecoglou

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All the great managers (that have actually won things of note) are able to adapt or tweak things when needed but this arrogant helmet thinks he doesn't need to.

Everything has to be his way. Even when he's blatantly getting it wrong (set piece defending) he can't bring himself to admit it or change it. He can't be seen as doing something wrong.

With substitutes he's been called out on not making changes early...he then finally does it against spammers and it worked fantastically...he then decides not to do it again. When called up on it (after the Brighton defeat) he says some shit about "oy yeh mate I could have done it earlier but that wouldn't change anything if the mentality is wrong". Wtf is he on about? yeh ok 'mate' just leave it how it is and accept defeat then.

He just chats so much fucking shit and it's infuriating. I remember the arguments I was having with people in the summer in which they were telling me he will definitely make changes in regards to the set pieces blah blah blah. This season we still have the fucking Chuckle brothers responsible for the defending of set pieces despite the calamity of last season.

Fucking sprint race FC is what we are now. "alright guys back to the half way line and run back again" is the tactic and we all pretend to be confused as to how we are getting these hamstring injuries.

Yesterday after he took Sarr off Bournemouth created a million and one chances. His thick as pig shit single pivot with 2 ams that literally nobody in world football plays (especially with a high line like ours) failed to work again. He also has a habbit of subbing on an attacking wide player after taking off our only creative outlet then pretends to be confused as to how we are not creating.

The players stopped playing for him weeks ago so wtf are we doing right now?
 
StripiestPilot said:
We all want the club to be less trigger happy, but that doesn’t mean backing the wrong man indefinitely. Sign the right manager and we won’t need to pull the trigger for a while.

Every top club will sack the manager when results are consistently shit. Look at Ten Hag for an example of hanging on to a bad manager for too long. Yeah he managed to win a couple of big games in the cups. It didn’t mean he was the right man, everyone was laughing at how bad his team was in the league. Everyone is laughing at us now. When rivals are laughing at you it’s over. The only one who survived this situation is Arteta but his bosses spent far more money righting the ship than Levy ever will.
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Agree with all that.

This money trap is sickening.

We spend fcukimg loads in many respects. It's a really sh!t narrative.

Postecoglou has had time and investment. He is also in the middle of a high level of injuries, but we lost games with more of our players being available.

It's not worked.
 
Ionman34 said:
Dafuq has he got to do with it?

You really want to pick a fight here don't you?
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You said you have supported every manager in your lifetime until the very end. You’ve never wanted one sacked. I believe you but it’s a strong statement and a very rare outlook.

So I was asking (maybe a bit facetiously - apols) if that same support applies to the chairman who hires and fires them all.

You implied - stated in fact - that being a supporter means backing your club through thick and thin. So I just wondered if that also applies to the guy who runs the whole thing.

It’s a fair question surely..
 
flop said:
VDV OUT
Romero OUT
Bentancour OUT
Vicarrio OUT
Richy OUT
Moore OUT
Odebert OUT

get some fucken perspective, team is running on bare bones ATM.
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How many of those players are starters?
3 definitely.
1 maybe.
3 subs.

And this is why you need to pick up points when you have got more of your first 11 fit, then adjust your team / playstyle accordingly to the players you have.

That’s football. Players get injured. Players are playing injured half the time.
 
glacierSpurs said:
Honest question - why don't you think people not in the bangwagon of sacking him are supporting more for the club instead of him?
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I'm not on any 'bandwagon' although I can understand anyone who is - the football and more importantly the results, are pure shite.
glacierSpurs said:
Even if it's not Ange, people just want the club to be less trigger happy so the club doesn't go into a futile cycle of rinse and repeat every year and a half.
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So... even if a manager is out of his depth we should carry on regardless?

I'm willing to see what happens in the next 5 games (3 league, 1 EL & 1 Caramel Cup) before I'm fully Ange out, although it's not looking good.
 
Chelmsford Spurs said:
Just get rid and stick a decent ex player in until the new season, what's ledley doing these days
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glacierSpurs said:
Honest question - why don't you think people not in the bangwagon of sacking him are supporting more for the club instead of him? Even if it's not Ange, people just want the club to be less trigger happy so the club doesn't go into a futile cycle of rinse and repeat every year and a half.
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Yep. Here’s a left field thought. How about letting a manager see out his contract and give him the proper time to instil the cultural change required.
I mean nothing else has worked, so why not?
What’s the old adage, the epitome of madness is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results!
 
One team looked coached yesterday.

The other does this thing where they all run forward as fast as possible then lose the ball.

Too much unnecessary running. Gaps every where. 0 midfield. Complete lack of structure.

I don't like it but, He needs to go... How many times do we say that's our worst performance blah blah blah.
 
simon j said:
Time for levy to go. Most spurs fans want him gone.
But the path of least resistance is to sack another manager..
I wonder how much clout owners like levy have with the media. Never hear about how disgruntled we are. Only ever hear about how we want the manger out. ( which is probably 40/60 in favour of staying).
Why does levy get so much protection is what I’m asking.
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Because modern football is a business. Its entertainment. Its an industry. Everyone gets paid. That's all they ( the media, the "clubs", and the owners) care about. Pay your money. Sit down. Do you thing for 100 minutes and get out. Come back next week.
 
Surprised the people on here is not pointing their fingers more on the players. Why are they letting away so easy? Where are their pride , giving a showing like that?

Yesterday was a new low, but neither are our manager clueless, or the players in general incompetent. We strolled just a couple of games back, and destroyed City in their own backyard.

Bournemouth just seemed to want it so much more than us yesterday. Embarassing night it was, due to our lack of fight.

Still think we will bounce back, and make a way better shift, vs Chelsea. Why? This is how we are nowadays, extremely inconsistent.

A young spine and injuries, part of the explanation, but failing when we need to deliever is unfortunately not new when it comes to Spurs. This mentality is what Conte adreessed, and needs to change going forward.
 
OziBeerMan said:
Yep. Here’s a left field thought. How about letting a manager see out his contract and give him the proper time to instil the cultural change required.
I mean nothing else has worked, so why not?
What’s the old adage, the epitome of madness is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results!
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Outside of the incredibly rare freak events like Ferguson, managers have their biggest impact and improvement within 12-18 months. We're getting worse if anything, all evidence suggests Ange can't manage effectively in the PL.

While he's ultimately doomed, I'd actually give him a bit longer, just to remove all doubts about him (and you never know...), because this club is probably winning nothing this season either way*.


* We all know why.
 
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SpiderSpurs said:
I'm not on any 'bandwagon' although I can understand anyone who is - the football and more importantly the results, are pure shite.

So... even if a manager is out of his depth we should carry on regardless?

I'm willing to see what happens in the next 5 games (3 league, 1 EL & 1 Caramel Cup) before I'm fully Ange out, although it's not looking good.
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I think it will be too late for a new manager to do anything with the season by then.

This is Nuno-level incompetence and I can't see it improving. Sorry to say I'm now fully Ange out.
 
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