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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Raf said:
I don't know.

I like what Marco Silva has been doing this season but I have no idea if that means he'll do good here.

I don't watch enough of other teams to have a good idea of who would be a good fit.
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It took him over two years to get them playing even close to how they are now.

Not saying I don't like what he is doing but is he someone you're willing to give that much time to?
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
About time. Since March/April its been like living in a different world with the reality of what we have been seeing not matching the narrative in the media (and fanbase). I mean going back to the spring we've lost 14 of our last 28 league games, winning only 11. Unbelievably shit.
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I want to thank you Sir Archibald Crooks Sir Archibald Crooks kingdawson kingdawson Cranston Cranston you see clearly what has happened and have tried in the face just insane denial to calmly point it out. You have exhibited much more patience than me not resorted to cursing people out.

But its increasingly odd that every time the man is exposed the cultist double down. They focus on Levy or injuries and are willfully blind to the football we have played exacerbated the injury issues. That the tactical nativity is being brutally exposed by any semi competent coach. Then they say no one can replace him when the reality is anyone could. You guys remind me of the Orwell axiom

"There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.” - George Orwell, 1984
 
Richard Arlison said:
Excellent post.

I understand why some people feel like a new manager would bring them some hope but they only need to look at Amorim for UTD to understand that the issues won't go away because you change a manager.

If the club has committed to really going balls out attack, then they need to really commit and not only see out the season but bring in some better attackers and a defender in January.
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Richard Arlison said:
Excellent post.

I understand why some people feel like a new manager would bring them some hope but they only need to look at Amorim for UTD to understand that the issues won't go away because you change a manager.

If the club has committed to really going balls out attack, then they need to really commit and not only see out the season but bring in some better attackers and a defender in January.
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The best thing Postecoglou could do just now is something he won't do, and that is to maintain his attacking style but dial back on a some parts of the system until he can get Romero and van de vyn. The post match interview today was hard to watch. When the reporter suggested that perhaps some adjustments need to be made, Postecoglou was having none of it.
 
Os22 said:
You’ve said time and time and time again you don’t care about the league, that finishing 4th is the same as finishing 16th. That if we don’t win anything the league is pointless unless you win it. You started a thread asking if being relegated would be worth it if it meant a change of ownership.

You go from thread to thread telling people you don’t care and asking who does? I do. I fucking do.

I’m a spurs fan, I want Spurs to win every game, I want us to finish as high in the league as possible, I want to play in the champions league, I want to win the FA Cup, the league cup, I want to win whatever European cup were in. I care!

You don’t care about the league, but I do, because the lower we finish the more good players we lose and the more mediocre ones we get in turn, and then we drop and drop and drop.

Yes I’d love to win a trophy, and I know you get more joy out of the cup competitions, there’s absolutely zero reason we can’t do both. Do I think we’re close to winning the league? We are not even on the same universe as the teams trying to win the league but there’s no reason we can’t look to do well on the league and the cups. If we get champions league football, do we win a cup? No. But at least we can attract some players who want to play at that level, and those players, they might finally get us over the line in one of the cups. If we don’t care about the league because “whats the point” we finish lower, we get shitter, we continue winning nothing. If you don’t believe we can win anything ever, and you can’t be motivated to want this team to do well in ALL competitions then why bother? I wouldn’t blame you for being burnt out with it all, but if you are, go support your local lower league club.

Who cares? I care.
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I want us to win the league. I want us to not be a banter club.

Every season I'll start it saying we have a chance to win it because I can't bring myself to take an interest in something we can't win.

I see where you are coming from and I can see why you'd find my posts annoying so let me try and explain where I'm coming from.

I'm bored to tears with being the banter club and for me not giving a shit is the only choice I have other than just not watching football anymore. I've already stopped spending money on English football.

So, this is what I do.... I'm all out for believing we can win something i.e. the league or the cup or the Europa, until it's obvious to me that we can't. At that point, I completely lose interest in the competition we can't win. I'm even annoyed at myself for watching other prem games whilst I was in bed with the flu recently. I just don't feel like giving the competition my time anymore.

Right now we can still win the Cups and Europa so I'm interested in them.

I wrote the relegation ownership change thread because changing owners is really the last hope any Spurs fan has of something changing and us not being the banter club anymore. Something different needs to happen for this to all be worth the time and effort.
 
Iraola moved to Bournmouth the same summer Ange came here.......if Levy goes now goes for Iraola it again illustrates what a thick numpty is running this football club.
 
Raf said:
I don't know what the process is when a club decides a manager, but it looks like the success of a manager is mostly just down to luck.

I said I like Silva but there could be some external circumstances that would cause him to fail here.

You mentioned Irola but he nearly got sacked early on. If he got unlucky and lost the game when his job was on the line he could've been another De Boer.
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You could make the argument about anyone really.

I don't know what your stance is on the manager but do you want him gone? If things like this carry on until the end of the season do you want him to stay? Are you going to be thinking there's no-one out there just because they may not be the answer?
 
ElTel said:
Ange in 100%

I don't care if we end up trophyless and in midtable by the end of the season

This club needs a proper shake up in the boardroom, not on the pitch

I'm prepared to back the manager and the players through these difficult times.

All the Ange haters are fully entitled to feel as they do and demand a change. It is what it is.
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Man, Ange wasted 50 m on BJ. He didn't play Spence all season until every other option was gone. He's been playing BJ throughout the season, and I'm convinced he's starting again next game.

He's refused to drop Romero despite Romero fucking up over and over this season. You must drop a player making so many mistakes. If not, what do you communicate to the other players?

He's made too many mistakes. He must go.
 
Serious question. What is about getting utterly dicked by every good team we play that the Ange Cultists enjoy so much? Do they have a humiliation kink or something?

I'm tired of it. I'm sick of us being a joke. I've had enough of clueless naivety. The sooner Levy, Ange and his Cultists all fuck off the better we'll be.
 
Shadydan said:
You didn't but you're refusing to name anyone so I just thought I'd throw it at you.

You'd want a competent Championship manager, what does that look like? Would you sack Ange for Michael Carrick or Daniel Farke or Scotty Parker right now then, what do you think they're doing differently at the moment? What makes you think they can go from managing every 7 days in the Championship to taking over a club with high expectations, playing every 3 days, already wedded to a style of play with a host of injuries managing a club under this regime? Why do you think it's that easy? What makes you think you can just copy and paste someone into the role without any other teething problems?

Did you take any of that into consideration? ^
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I want someone who understands the definition of the word defence. Just simple basic defensive organisation. Someone who’s not a complete stubborn asshole who can hold their hands up and say I’m wrong, let’s try a different approach.
 
sudoku said:
61,439 punters turned up and only a tiny few are unhappy with Ange-ball.
They stayed and sang until the end.
We have 3 cups to go for and many EPL games against teams that ain't the best in the world.
It's gonna be a fun ride for 95%+ of fans, and, as for the other less than 5%-fuck ''em!
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And it will feel even more sweet for thos 61k people if we do finally freak out a trophy off some kind and they stuck by it. They will have deserved it.
 
Shadydan said:
No quite, I asked the question and you responded to it therefore it's my point, not yours.

You have every right to want this manager gone but the fact that you or anyone else cannot name a manager to replace him now tells you everything, you think we're a laughing stock now you just wait until we sack him and have your choice Ryan Mason in until May...like what is the point of that?
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Shady, why do you expect clowns like us on the internet to be able to provide you a list of available managers? Should we know their contractual status too?

I would expect the club, at all times, to be aware of each and every manager across the top five leagues, as well as South America and the United States.

They should, at the very least, already be planning for a replacement in the Summer.

I mean, the only names that we can sensibly offer are the likes of Silva, Irola etc. But then you have more distant options like Alonso, Nagelsmann or Terzic. And who knows, maybe Daniel might even try to tempt Poch back.

It’s the entire point of a functioning and effective Football Operation.

What happens if we lose the next three and are in 15th or 16th?
 
AVB's final match was a 0:5 loss at home against Liverpool.

He won't get sacked in the midst of Christmas-New Year schedule and a long list of injuries, but he's on very thin ice. And those who think he's part of a bigger "project", and as a result he'll get the next season no matter what, are just trying to wish it into existence.

Even if he sees through the season, which IMO is still likely but not given, he's essentially an interim at this point. Getting a CL spot is a pipedream. He'll either earn his place here next season by winning a cup or he's out in the summer.
 
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