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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Serious question. What is about getting utterly dicked by every good team we play that the Ange Cultists enjoy so much? Do they have a humiliation kink or something?

I'm tired of it. I'm sick of us being a joke. I've had enough of clueless naivety. The sooner Levy, Ange and his Cultists all fuck off the better we'll be.
 
You didn't but you're refusing to name anyone so I just thought I'd throw it at you.

You'd want a competent Championship manager, what does that look like? Would you sack Ange for Michael Carrick or Daniel Farke or Scotty Parker right now then, what do you think they're doing differently at the moment? What makes you think they can go from managing every 7 days in the Championship to taking over a club with high expectations, playing every 3 days, already wedded to a style of play with a host of injuries managing a club under this regime? Why do you think it's that easy? What makes you think you can just copy and paste someone into the role without any other teething problems?

Did you take any of that into consideration? ^

I want someone who understands the definition of the word defence. Just simple basic defensive organisation. Someone who’s not a complete stubborn asshole who can hold their hands up and say I’m wrong, let’s try a different approach.
 
61,439 punters turned up and only a tiny few are unhappy with Ange-ball.
They stayed and sang until the end.
We have 3 cups to go for and many EPL games against teams that ain't the best in the world.
It's gonna be a fun ride for 95%+ of fans, and, as for the other less than 5%-fuck ''em!
And it will feel even more sweet for thos 61k people if we do finally freak out a trophy off some kind and they stuck by it. They will have deserved it.
 
No quite, I asked the question and you responded to it therefore it's my point, not yours.

You have every right to want this manager gone but the fact that you or anyone else cannot name a manager to replace him now tells you everything, you think we're a laughing stock now you just wait until we sack him and have your choice Ryan Mason in until May...like what is the point of that?
Shady, why do you expect clowns like us on the internet to be able to provide you a list of available managers? Should we know their contractual status too?

I would expect the club, at all times, to be aware of each and every manager across the top five leagues, as well as South America and the United States.

They should, at the very least, already be planning for a replacement in the Summer.

I mean, the only names that we can sensibly offer are the likes of Silva, Irola etc. But then you have more distant options like Alonso, Nagelsmann or Terzic. And who knows, maybe Daniel might even try to tempt Poch back.

It’s the entire point of a functioning and effective Football Operation.

What happens if we lose the next three and are in 15th or 16th?
 
AVB's final match was a 0:5 loss at home against Liverpool.

He won't get sacked in the midst of Christmas-New Year schedule and a long list of injuries, but he's on very thin ice. And those who think he's part of a bigger "project", and as a result he'll get the next season no matter what, are just trying to wish it into existence.

Even if he sees through the season, which IMO is still likely but not given, he's essentially an interim at this point. Getting a CL spot is a pipedream. He'll either earn his place here next season by winning a cup or he's out in the summer.
 
And this is the reason we go nowhere as a club don't always blame levy blame the fans for falling for the crap every time. Worst manager in 15 years and somehow we want him to stay where was conte support or Jose he'll even nuno was better

Did you back Conte, Jose or Nuno???? I very much doubt you did

That's the problem here, the fans rarely back any manager through the hard times
 
Shady, why do you expect clowns like us on the internet to be able to provide you a list of available managers? Should we know their contractual status too?

I would expect the club, at all times, to be aware of each and every manager across the top five leagues, as well as South America and the United States.

They should, at the very least, already be planning for a replacement in the Summer.

I mean, the only names that we can sensibly offer are the likes of Silva, Irola etc. But then you have more distant options like Alonso, Nagelsmann or Terzic.

It’s the entire point of a functioning and effective Football Operation.

What happens if we lose the next three and are in 15th or 16th?

Dude I answered this here:

Dude it's not a job lol, it's not that serious, merely a debate - we're on a forum discussing the manager and potentially the next one.

It's not really a gotcha, if you can't answer the question then fine, ultimately my point is that I want to get people to think rationally because sacking the manager is easy...replace him though...

My point is that ironically the Ange outers don't have a Plan B and why is that because they know there's no guarantees of things getting any better.

My question was about now by the way, not the Summer, I fully expect us to sack him if things carry on like this all season in the Summer and he would have more than deserved it but what does sacking him now actually achieve, has anyone actually thought about the alternative scenario for the rest of the season because it's clear they haven't.
 
Slot hasnt done anything revolutionary. Had the players just tweaked a few things and kept it simple. I do empathise with vdv and romero being out but you have to be flexible and adjust formation. Ange did none of that today.
 

Breaking the loop is breaking the loop. Might not even be Ange that gets to reap the rewards if we stick by him. We just need to break the culture of flip flopping all the time when it gets difficult.

Finish the season, see where it takes you. At least the next manager you pitch to knows he's not walking into a poisoned chalice where he's probably getting sacked if things get rough. Conte played to get sacked when things got rough because he knew Levy had created a flip flop culture that would bail him out of the mess he was in. He got to leave with his reputation intact and will now join the list of players and managers who leave and win things before we do.

No matter how rough it gets this season, we can't just keep being flakey and expect things to change.
 
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