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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Vicario

Porro——-Romero——-VVD——-Udogie
Spence———Dragusin——-????———Davies
Bentancur
———Bissouma——Maddison
Bergval———Grey———-Sarr
Kulu————-Solanke————Son
Johnson——-?????——-Oddbod
Werner
———???????——-Moore

Davies and Moore are one game back, but had been unavailable for weeks.I have never seen an injury list at Spurs like this in all my time, that I can remember. And this is a fucking meh team/squad to start with.

As I’ve said before, I’m ambivalent about Ange being sacked or not, don’t mind if he’s given to the end of the season, but if there’s someone good who’ll come in, don’t mind that either, but I really don’t know what people expect from a) this squad b) what’s left of this squad.

No matter who comes in.
 
fuck have to think levy and the board have determined we're not likely to get relegated so we're sticking with ange until the end of the season. to them anything above 18th is fine and they can have an easier go at finding the replacement after the season. if things really turn south i guess they'll try mason or someone currently unemployed but i think they don't want to pay someone who isn't their first choice. meanwhile we fans get to suffer the ignominy of a relegation fight with the fat cunt for the next 4 months. this absolutely sucks

If he ends up winning a trophy how likely is it they get rid of him even if we do finish bottom half at the end of the season?
 
He's one of those whose entire life is football, he's hitched his wagon to Postcoglou being a tactical genius, and so admitting they were wrong all along would be akin to admitting you know absolutely nothing about the sport you spend all day writing about.

It's too much for these people to accept, too much of a mental collapse, so they have to look for other reasons (injures, Levy, young players) that enable them to believe they're not a complete fraud just like this manager. You see it all over this forum too.
so true!

the postecoglou experience has actually been a huge eye opener. ive got spurs mates that until recently wanted this idiot in! ive got zero respect for any of their opinions on football going forward. ill be worried if they actually share the same opinion as me going forward.
 
So what? Add it to the second half v Leicester, second half v Brighton, Palace away...we played some awful stuff with our first choice players. No consistency, the same defensive issues regardless of who plays (attack our right side). Injuries obviously make it worse, but the problem is the coach. He is the root cause of the problem.
Precisely. Of course injuries have played a significant part but with or without them, we still see the same issues, no consistency and a team approach lacking any real cohesion.
After Wednesday, he said the performance was unacceptable and that he would put it right. He got tetchy with the BBC reporter yesterday so they probably curtailed their questioning, but it was a shame no one asked him if he thought yesterday’s performance was unacceptable. He just gave some waffle about the structure not working then trotted his usual speech about responsibility lying with him and him taking the blame etc. Meanwhile, his team will set up against Leicester with a huge open space of visible green in the middle of the park while he stands there at the sidelines with his hands in his pockets.

I’m naturally assuming he won’t have gone by then.
 
oh ffs. Can't you see that there is a compounding effect going on?

The players haven't been properly coached now for 18 months.

Our only good players are those who have spent the least time under his horrible mis-management (Spence, Solanke, Gray, Bergvall).

We would be absolutely miles off 5th even with zero injuries.
Bravo, Sir.

Also the small matter that finishing 5th last year was a bit of a fluke. Proper flattered us.
 
It depends on the money. We are still considered a wealthy club. If someone comes knocking they will sell. Question is who is willing to buy us for 10 billion?

Enic will never sell why we are down. They will want top dollar so will only sell if we are flying high. Think Catch 22
Lewis will sell either when the Super League is active or when the coffin is nailed shut on the Super League (my guess is the latter never occurs as the former is inevitable).

The Super League is the next great explosion in (some) football clubs' values. Currently, despite being the world's most popular game, there are only 6 clubs more valuable than the least valuable NFL team (Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, United, City). The football clubs continue to fall further behind, and are now being overtaken by the NBA with 3 NBA teams more valuable than the richest football club, Madrid. There are 8 nFL teams more valuable than Madrid, and that number increases every year.

The structure of football inhibits the growth of clubs' values, which is why the monied interests behind the game want a change. A fixed structure Super League would catapult those clubs'values into the stratosphere, similar to the way the PL international TV and commercialization deals ballooned values (the first big wave ENIC benefitted from).

As members of an operational Super League, THFC would likely be worth £6-10B. That's double or more than the £3B it's currently worth.

With that sort of bubble on the horizon, there's no chance ENIC sell.
 
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Let's have it right...say we win the EL and/or Carabao Cup...and that's a big fucking if already.

Well Ange would still be a fucking joke of a manager/coach and still should be nowhere near the Spurs job. I say that now and I'd say it then.

You win one/two trophies and you're still utter shite at your job in most people's eyes. Says it all about that dumpling.

Avram Grant and Bobby Di Matteo once won big things with the Chavs iirc...didn't make them elite managers and they rightly got the sack soon after.
 
I have written the next 5 years off . I am now hoping Jan Vertonghen becomes a decent manager and he joins us and brings back the joy .

2030 Super Jan time

Thinking anything good can be achieved in the next 5 years with ENIC is now beyond me
Imagine Super Jan winning a cup and running onto the pitch in his tailored suit and ripping it in true celebration.

Oh wait, winning a cup. My bad, forgot it’s Spurs.
 
Admittedly that one was a bit self indulgent poking fun at the “Ange is to blame for injuries” crew.

Same was when everyone caught flu and we had to play Liverpool full strength.

It’s just an absurd narrative to me that’s all
If you can't see how Ange is responsible for the zillion hamstring injuries we've had to ensure the past 2 seasons, well I don't know what to say pal.

Oh I get it, probably the refs' fault.
 
So what if we win a trophy? You can still get rid of him. Ten Haag won 2 and was still clueless. Ramos won our last trophy…

If Ange wins a trophy, lovely. You say thanks very much for that now let’s move on.

Not sure the club will see it that way especially if there is an uptick in form in the league when everyone gets back and if there are new signings this window.

I thought everton would be the last straw but it seems not. Maybe leicester at home if we dont win.
 
Up until this point I thought your average fan probably had a vague idea of what they were watching on the pitch. You know, basic tactics, common sense. Especially the ones who'd been watching the sport for 30-40 years and had thousands of games under their belt.

But the reaction this absolute fucking mess of a match—and from all corners, not just Spurs fans—was a real shock. Never seen anything more stupid take place on a football pitch in my life, and yet you have the sheep in the stadium clapping like seals, and all the pundits cooing like they'd just witnessed Guardiola reinvent the wheel.

Now I think most people I think just watch football with their brain disengaged; to them it's just a bunch of different coloured shirts running around, a chance to yell at the TV, and you cheer when the ball goes in the right net. Only way you can explain the absolute insanity we're seeing now too, where most of the fans are still backing this charlatan. No wonder we're fucking doomed as a species.
I'm telling you this woke me up fully. And I'm serious when I tell you the reactions to our football now have changed the way I use this site. Some contributors are not on ignore but I do not read what they have to say. The tactical stupidity and inability to analyse what they are seeing is so profound that I don't read their posts. There not even the ones that obviously do not support the club and want attention. It's worse they do not understand and it's very clear. Despite the love of informatics, buzz words and tactical speak.
 
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