All I’m saying is we have seen elite level performances against the very best teams. Those are the ceiling of this project.
The problem is that we’ve seen a very low floor against Ipswich and the average atm is miles off the ceiling.
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The problem is that we’ve seen a very low floor against Ipswich and the average atm is miles off the ceiling.
You acknowledge that we beat City at home in the Carabao cup in which Haaland didn't play and by all account was a match 'they didn't take seriously' yet you want to ignore a match against them 3 weeks later where they played a stronger team despite having an 'injury crisis' where we managed to end City's 52 match unbeaten run and despite us missing Romero, VDV and Bentancur.
That's some stinky ass agenda you got there.
There aren't any evAngelists.
Why don't you wind your neck in and stop posting on this forum where you're not wanted.
The true ceiling is defined by consistently winning, regardless of how we play. Flashy performances can happen with any team, but they don’t matter if we can’t sustain success over time.
Disagree.
Ceiling is your best, floor is your worst, average is your consistent level.
That definition oversimplifies the reality of winning a league. The ceiling isn’t just about your best moments; it’s about how high your consistent level can be. Sustained success over a season isn’t built on isolated peaks but on minimizing the gap between your floor and average.
The games we win big in we usually score a few close together and the other lot get demoralised.
Spurs under Ange can't defend and concede easy goals by pushing up too many players; especially the full backs.
It has been an increasingly deteriorating situation, regarding conceding shit goals; so much so Spurs now often need 3 goals to draw a game.
It's actually become quite demoralising how shit Spurs are in respect of preventing the opposition from scoring.
We give goals away for nothing.
I cannot believe Ange will be Spurs manager next season because of this.
Keeping him here until the end of the season is looking more and more like Spurs writing off the season altogether.
It also saves Levy money.
Winning against Leicester is not enough for me regarding Ange.
If Spurs concede more than one goal at home to Leicester, or fail to win by more than 2 goals; Ange should be relieved of his duties in my opinion.
Watching Spurs concede 5 goals to Everton and Hoffenheim has finished me.
We gave Hoffenheim 23 attempts at goal.
That is just shit.
All sides and all poor managers can get the odd good performance and result. Seen some great performances from Ardiles, Gross and Ramos teams. All a bit meaningless if that doesnt signal any form of consistant improvement. Every really good performance and result under Ange since the first 10 has been followed by a complete shitshow. This style of football wont ever win you 5 or 6 on the bounce in the premier league. Again its 13 months since we won 3 on the trot. The only consistant aspects are the amount of defeats, 16 in 29 and that we barely ever keep a clean sheet, 5 in 33 games.
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I agree, the consistent performance level is what wins you the league. And we need ours to reach the level of our ceiling almost every week if we want to even have a chance
I would happily take any win of any kind on the weekend considering how knackered those players were last night
It's built on sand isn't it?
I've started to realise that all the while our defenders have stopped focussing on defending first and foremost the more goals Spurs seem to concede.
Without Solanke I doubt this team can outscore many of the teams Spurs have left to play.
Levy needs to do something in my opinion.
Sentiment for Ange could get Spurs into big trouble unless there is a rapid change in fortunes.
Knackered my arse.
Don't believe the hype.
Some of these players are just not good enough and the manager's tactics are leaving their weakness exposed.
Many were astounded when Porro was left out of the Spain national team in the summer.
Since the Tamworth winger had Porro's pants down it has become obvious he isn't good enough for the Premier League; never mind Spain.
The ceiling is often against sides who come at us. This side playing Angeball is incredibly dangerous against space.
The floor is we have terrible forwards when you sit back and deny them space. They are bumbling fuckfits when you ask them that question.
The question is do we bring in a more pragmatic manager and play more on the counter to better suit our players? Or do we bring in some midfielders and forwards with better technique and decision making to open up deep and well-set defences?
The consistent performance level is the true ceiling of this project, not just isolated performances.
one all season at home I think
Everton back in August
terrible
Absolutely and my answer is absolutely bring in the players to solve that problem. We need way more players to be suited to sitting deep and counter attacking.
None of our defenders are suited to that and none of our midfielders are proper defensive midfielders.
And it’s not even what this club was built on. We know who this club is and lest we forget some clown like Jamie Carragher will smugly remind us. Let’s fucking own it and really go after being the best version of that. If we win, I honestly don’t care if we concede goals.
Yeah last one before that was Fulham in October 2023.
Whatever
If you didn’t see knackered players last night then you were choosing to stay ignorant to what was right in front of your eyes