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United will get to the final. No doubt at all. Us, I say it's 70:30.

Correct.

There was nothing more unfair in that world of unfairness than allowing CL dropouts another chance in another competition. Utterly perverse.

So yes, easier to win but does not diminish anything, and if we were to win the thing, not one of us would celebrate with any less intensity than if we won the CL,FA Cup or anything.

Put simply, winning a trophy of note would send us into euphoric and collective rapture.

So, fcuk Sunday and let's preserve every bit of energy for next week, do as we did yesterday, and then ready ourselves for the 21st.

By God man, we are the mighty Spurs didn't you know!!!!
I agree. My trophy rankings (as in, order of what I'd like us to win, rather than difficulty to win):

CL, PL, EL, FA, CC, ECL, AC*

*Audi Cup
 
Jesus wept, our attacking play last night was bloody atrocious. 2 goals from open play against a half strength Norwegian team, with our brilliant crowd atmosphere. Our coaching staff are useless and our front 3 are poor. Do t excited when we get a corner, when do we ever score from one, hardly ever. Most dangerous player at a corner is Romero. What does that say for Richy and Solanke.

It wasn’t that bad. Unlike most games where we look toothless, there was a clear plan in the first half. Defence splitting long balls, Richi providing aerial support etc

This worked well, not great but well. 2 nil up at half time with Bodo only having one half chance just before the break.

However, we did have several counter attacks that failed to deliver a chance never mind an outcome. From that aspect it wasn’t good enough. You need to be clinical and especially against a team we’re expected to beat comfortably. Kill them in the first leg, be professional in the second.

Taking Richarlison off at half time was bizarre though as Tel isn’t as much of a threat as Odobert and Johnson, well he either scores or does bugger all. The sub changed the dynamic of the game and not for the better. We lost a presence and a clear threat in the penalty area.

The last 30 we created next to nothing… there’s a difference between seeing out a game and completely taking your foot off the gas.

Overall it finished 3-1 and it was a comfortable victory (barring a few jitters at the end) but did we make the most of the opportunity to in effect finish the tie, no we didn’t.
 
It wasn’t that bad. Unlike most games where we look toothless, there was a clear plan in the first half. Defence splitting long balls, Richi providing aerial support etc

This worked well, not great but well. 2 nil up at half time with Bodo only having one half chance just before the break.

However, we did have several counter attacks that failed to deliver a chance never mind an outcome. From that aspect it wasn’t good enough. You need to be clinical and especially against a team we’re expected to beat comfortably. Kill them in the first leg, be professional in the second.

Taking Richarlison off at half time was bizarre though as Tel isn’t as much of a threat as Odobert and Johnson, well he either scores or does bugger all. The sub changed the dynamic of the game and not for the better. We lost a presence and a clear threat in the penalty area.

The last 30 we created next to nothing… there’s a difference between seeing out a game and completely taking your foot off the gas.

Overall it finished 3-1 and it was a comfortable victory (barring a few jitters at the end) but did we make the most of the opportunity to in effect finish the tie, no we didn’t.
Ange seems to have fucked up again with his subs? Richie would have been absolutely desperate for a goal last night. Should have kept him on. And brought on Sarr.
 
It's not at all, Barcelona are an incredibly direct team who get the ball to their forwards quickly, Tika Taka focuses on possession and recycling the ball and making short passes.

Flick's style is similar to Ange's, there's nothing wrong in saying that - that doesn't mean they're on the same coaching level.
Barca dominates almost every team they meet - averaging around 70 % of possession - so it's limited how direct they can play as most teams park the "bus", so they're still reliant on recycling the ball in MF and in front of the parked "bus".
 
Barca dominates almost every team they meet - averaging around 70 % of possession - so it's limited how direct they can play as most teams park the "bus", so they're still reliant on recycling the ball in MF and in front of the parked "bus".

Just because they 'dominate' it doesn't mean they're playing Tika Taka.

There's a distinctive difference to how Flick plays and how quick they get the ball forward compared to how Pep played with Barcelona, no-one has played like that since Pep and he doesn't even play it anymore.

Flick is an incredibly direct coach , he was the same at Bayern - the reason his teams dominate matches because they normally win the ball high up and keep teams hemmed in - Ange preaches the same philosophy.

The difference between the styles is that Flick likes to keep one full back wide whilst the other one underlaps whilst Ange likes both his full backs to underlap but the principes are the same...both coaches like to use the half way line as an extra defender and use attacking with the ball as a way as defending, both like to engage a high press, both are direct and get the ball forward and take risks.

Flick is obviously a better and more experienced coach than Ange.
 
Just because they 'dominate' it doesn't mean they're playing Tika Taka.

There's a distinctive difference to how Flick plays and how quick they get the ball forward compared to how Pep played with Barcelona, no-one has played like that since Pep and he doesn't even play it anymore.

Flick is an incredibly direct coach , he was the same at Bayern - the reason his teams dominate matches because they normally win the ball high up and keep teams hemmed in - Ange preaches the same philosophy.

The difference between the styles is that Flick likes to keep one full back wide whilst the other one underlaps whilst Ange likes both his full backs to underlap but the principes are the same...both coaches like to use the half way line as an extra defender and use attacking with the ball as a way as defending, both like to engage a high press, both are direct and get the ball forward and take risks.

Flick is obviously a better and more experienced coach than Ange.

Weasel x2
 
No I absolutely do. You're gagging to say it already.

It's nothing to do with diminishing it - it's accepting it for what it is. Most sensible people on here can admit its low in terms of quality but an awesome opportunity to win something.

You & others on the other hand want to big up the likes of Richy for heading it across vs Norwegian farmers, or Ange for achieving it. Ange can fuck off. It's a club victory if we manage it, not a him victory. He shouldn't even still fucking be here.

Still blithering on about Ange.

Spurs winning the EL would be our biggest trophy since the 80's. I'm absolutely pumped for it and really hope it happens. I'm not even sure I've ever seen you say you want us to win it. Every message is just you acting like it's beneath us because we got to the CL Final under Poch.
 
Credit where it's due and yesterday, the team selection surprised most if us, and I bet it surprised Bodo.

I thought the change at half-time also made sense to a large extent.

Johnson was ineffective in the second half and posed minimal threat, amd once Maddison succumbed changed was needed, with our options somewhat limited.

If all were fit and able next week, I still think we would start with a different line-up, but my preference would be solidity to begin with, then go for the jugular.

They will huff and puff but I think we cdn blow their Igloo down.
 
Still blithering on about Ange.

Spurs winning the EL would be our biggest trophy since the 80's. I'm absolutely pumped for it and really hope it happens. I'm not even sure I've ever seen you say you want us to win it. Every message is just you acting like it's beneath us because we got to the CL Final under Poch.

Yep, win it and I'm absolutely in tears. Mind you if we don't even get to the final I might also be in tears!

The managers, both now and then are transient. Important yes, but only for the moment.

This is about THFC.
 
Still blithering on about Ange.

Spurs winning the EL would be our biggest trophy since the 80's. I'm absolutely pumped for it and really hope it happens. I'm not even sure I've ever seen you say you want us to win it. Every message is just you acting like it's beneath us because we got to the CL Final under Poch.

Yaaaaaaaaaawnnnnnnnnnnn.

It isn't "beneath" us in the same way the league cup isn't "beneath us" but has still been won relatively recently by Swansea City and Wigan. Does that make sense to your feeble brain in any way at all?

We haven't won anything recently so anything is a big win for us, but that doesn't make anything really high quality competition by default. It's not hard to work it out.
 
Yaaaaaaaaaawnnnnnnnnnnn.

It isn't "beneath" us in the same way the league cup isn't "beneath us" but has still been won relatively recently by Swansea City and Wigan. Does that make sense to your feeble brain in any way at all?

We haven't won anything recently so anything is a big win for us, but that doesn't make anything really high quality competition by default. It's not hard to work it out.

Do you want us to win it?
 
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