Very true. Still great to win it.
The old UEFA cup was very hard to win. Harder IMO than the old European Cup. More good teams in it.
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The old UEFA cup was very hard to win. Harder IMO than the old European Cup. More good teams in it.
tbf, I actually think Wrexham, at least at their ground, would beat us.
United will get to the final. No doubt at all. Us, I say it's 70:30.
Correct.
There was nothing more unfair in that world of unfairness than allowing CL dropouts another chance in another competition. Utterly perverse.
So yes, easier to win but does not diminish anything, and if we were to win the thing, not one of us would celebrate with any less intensity than if we won the CL,FA Cup or anything.
Put simply, winning a trophy of note would send us into euphoric and collective rapture.
So, fcuk Sunday and let's preserve every bit of energy for next week, do as we did yesterday, and then ready ourselves for the 21st.
By God man, we are the mighty Spurs didn't you know!!!!
The only person talking about Ange is you
Its the Ange Postenoclue thread and I know exactly what you will say if we win it and what others are ALREADY saying.
Exactly this, is high line, direct football, they actually go route one constantly and play all out attack which leaves acres of space when you play through their press. Its not even like they have elite defenders to cover, arguably our back 4 is better than theirs, but what they do have is world class midfielders and attackers.
Technically could be one defeat and a draw away from "glory"...
I think it's essentially debating whether there's actually any credit due to the Manager for the result last night, or whether it's a result that would likely have come about whoever was picked and whatever tactical direction they were given.
Why does that matter you may ask, and I'd guess that the most staunchly Ange out simply don't want to see credit being directed at him as that's when the "oh he should be given next season" sentiment starts to creep back in, and frankly that's the worst possible future timeline.
At 3 nil we were cruising, Bodø offered nothing and it was a pretty easy game for us. However, the last 30 mins (injuries didn’t help) but it was like the players either went to sleep or weren’t receiving any instructions on what to do. There was a clear plan in the first half but nothing in the last 30. What should have been 3 nil or even greater finished 3-1 and has given Bodo hope… especially on a pitch that we’ve already fluffed our lines once this season.
It's Bodo Glimt at home and they were missing 6 starting eleven players.
I'm not giving Ange credit for us being the better team against them. If we managed to put in a good performance against Liverpool, or shit even one against Villa away or any other team who we should really be able to at least somewhat stand up against, then he can have some credit.
He's not getting credit for the barest of bare minimums. I'm not gonna sit here and give him a pat on the back for starting the 60m striker off the left against a team who spend 6m euros a year on wages for their entire squad. Sorry not bloody sorry.
You have an England flag in your avi and before that I think it was Muller because you like raumdeuters or something. I'm not even sure if you really know if you want us to win the EL, let alone know what I will say if we do.
Yep, nothing I disagree with.
The scene was set for 4 or 5. Definitely a clean sheet.
I know we won, controlled the game but they have one of 2 chances and score. Too fallible.... nearly always.
Being tight and boring for 15 or 20 minutes would have sufficed, but what they have to do is attack us and that will give us chances.
And no chasing the game FFS.
It was Muller because my name was Raumdeuterz, it really wasn’t that deep.
OH NO!! If I made my avatar a complete waste of our time like yours, would it make me a top fan too?
I know what you’ll say. You’re insane but you’re predictably insane.
Jesus wept, our attacking play last night was bloody atrocious. 2 goals from open play against a half strength Norwegian team, with our brilliant crowd atmosphere. Our coaching staff are useless and our front 3 are poor. Do t excited when we get a corner, when do we ever score from one, hardly ever. Most dangerous player at a corner is Romero. What does that say for Richy and Solanke.
The CL prize is nothing more than a bonus for me. I just want to celebrate winning something for the first time in ages.
I’m still not sure who we’ll play if we get there. I think there’s still something to happen in the other game.
You have no idea what I'll say but the fact that you feel the need to preemptively diminish this club winning a European trophy, just in case I say what you are terrified I'll say...that is predictably insane, mate.
The overload they had in midfield because kulusevski vacated Maddison’s midfield area. It was a stupid sub. We said in the ground at the time the answer was to bring Sarr on.
No I absolutely do. You're gagging to say it already.
It's nothing to do with diminishing it - it's accepting it for what it is. Most sensible people on here can admit its low in terms of quality but an awesome opportunity to win something.
You & others on the other hand want to big up the likes of Richy for heading it across vs Norwegian farmers, or Ange for achieving it. Ange can fuck off. It's a club victory if we manage it, not a him victory. He shouldn't even still fucking be here.
The modern Barca story and style of play is fascinating.
Yes their midfielders and attackers are better than ours but if you look at their star youngsters, most of them have only made it due to the huge financial mess Barca found themselves in. They chucked them in at the deep end, several looked like they would drown but 1-2 seasons later and they have half a dozen quality/world class kids in the team. For reference:
- Balde - 21 - value €59.6m
- Cubrasi - 18 - value €71.5m
- Casado - 21 - value €29.4m
- Gavi - 20 - value €73.5m
- Fermin Lopez - 21 - value €50.3m
- Pedri - 22 - value €124.2m
- Yamal - 17 - value €199.1m
Barca have a combination of experience and a shed load of quality youngsters. They play a high line, attack as a team and then flood back to bail out their defence.
They play a similar style to early Ange tactics but the major difference is they:
a) play as a team
b) they’re all comfortable with the ball at their feet
c) when in possession and high up the pitch you can still see clear distinctive positions from defence, through to midfield and attack
Whereas if you look at the Ange version we’ve gaping holes everywhere. The Flick version has proven to be successful but we can’t apply it with our current squad as it’s far from compatible.