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Management Ange Postecoglou

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So, on the topic of awkward truths, I listened to The VFTL and Jack PB pointed out that its really not easy to transform the entire philosophy and style of play mid season like Ange just did. Not many coaches can coach more than one system to any kind of level, let alone finishing 5th in the PL with one, and winning a European trophy with another.

If Ange is dropping the stubborn stuff, there’s clearly a very good coach in there
You're such a moments guy. I bet you're the type whenever a hot chick says hi to you, you think that's it I've met my future wife...even though she's actually a nutter and frigid.

Pal, anybody can play the monstrosity Ange has fed us them last few rounds of the Europa League...proper peak 80s Serie A. I bet even Nuno, Jose, Tony Pulis, Big Sam or George friggin Graham thought "fuck me, that's negative anti-football shit". And that was in a comp with the talent level of the Champo.

Funny how your dearly beloved completely shat on his own football principles & philosophy when he realised the only way to save his job & fat paycheck was to play uber scaredy-cat stuff that we'd have murdered other managers for (Spurs or other teams).
 
Ange has just achieved the pinnacle in the mind of his cultists.
You're tilting at windmills dude.

We've been shit this season and if Ange continues he will be on very thin ice if the caliber of football we've been playing this season continues. We can't just tolerate losing all the time.

AND YET, his absolute #1 remit upon taking over, the same as Jose and Conte, was to break the trophy drought, accomplishing that is a huge fucking deal for the club, worth celebrating and being proud of, and it was his side that had the nous and maturity to do the business away from home in high-pressure situations of do-or-die matches.

Over the past several years we've had brilliant, top-class football. We did not have it this year and we'll need and demand it going forward, but we know it can be done at Spurs even with the Levy handbrake on. What we have NOT had is the steely nerve it takes to lift trophies. Fair fucking play to Big Ange for instilling that, that's a benefit we can carry even when he goes.
 
You're such a moments guy. I bet you're the type whenever a hot chick says hi to you, you think that's it I've met my future wife...even though she's actually a nutter and frigid.

Pal, anybody can play the monstrosity Ange has fed us them last few rounds of the Europa League...proper peak 80s Serie A. I bet even Nuno, Jose, Tony Pulis, Big Sam or George friggin Graham thought "fuck me, that's negative anti-football shit". And that was in a comp with the talent level of the Champo.

Funny how your dearly beloved completely shat on his own football principles & philosophy when he realised the only way to save his job & fat paycheck was to play uber scaredy-cat stuff that we'd have murdered other managers for (Spurs or other teams).

Its literally just a Europa League version of what Di Matteo did to get past Bayern, Barcelona etc. And he won the FA cup the same season too.

I'll give Ange credit for doing it, it was better than his actual fucking system and it got us over the line .. but fuck me it's hardly genius.
 
Yeah this is Ten Hag's second season in a nutshell. Even here the general sentiment has already turned in favour of him it seems, like how the majority of United fans hopped back on the Ten Hag bandwagon after their Fa Cup win. Don't think Levy and co are less fickle than members of this forum, so he's definitely staying.

Bad news is that we will once again be hovering around the relegation zone next year as long as he's in charge. With the addition of CL football to the mix players will continue dropping like flies, and even with a fully fit squad I don't see us winning many games with this incoherent mess that our football has devolved into under him.

Good news is that he most likely won't see the new year, so relegation won't be a serious cause for concern. It'll be another lost season, at least as far as league campaign is concerned, but whatever.

I can tolerate a few more months of him. But I just hope we don't fill the team with his handpicked dross under the name of "backing" him, like how United did with Ten Hag after the latter's Fa Cup win. That would set us back for years.
I'd hold off on predictions. But if forces I still think he is gone think it's 60/40
 
You're tilting at windmills dude.

We've been shit this season and if Ange continues he will be on very thin ice if the caliber of football we've been playing this season continues. We can't just tolerate losing all the time.

AND YET, his absolute #1 remit upon taking over, the same as Jose and Conte, was to break the trophy drought, accomplishing that is a huge fucking deal for the club, worth celebrating and being proud of, and it was his side that had the nous and maturity to do the business away from home in high-pressure situations of do-or-die matches.

Over the past several years we've had brilliant, top-class football. We did not have it this year and we'll need and demand it going forward, but we know it can be done at Spurs even with the Levy handbrake on. What we have NOT had is the steely nerve it takes to lift trophies. Fair fucking play to Big Ange for instilling that.

Steely nerve. Fuck me, I guess Crystal Palace have the stuff of champions too.

Winning trophies is mostly a huge dose of luck and circumstance. Unless we're talking the premier league, champions league, world cup, euros etc where you still need a huge dose of that, but also a huge dose of actual quality and a winners mentality because its THE cup all other winners are in.

The EL is a huge slice of "who is actually going to take this seriously" and if you're there you can win it. Some better penalties and Rangers would have lifted this shit.

Anyway, I'm not gonna let the fucking fanatics who want to make this football political instead of accepting it for what it is ruin a great night. Like I said, boring as hell.
 
If a lucky rabbit's foot is all Ange is, so be it, we needed a lucky rabbit's foot.

I forgot the "actually taking it seriously" factor. Well I did mention it later in the post.

We didn't win the ropey league under Poch because we, on numerous occasions, rotated the team because it was a sideshow to the competitions big teams take seriously.

Ange made it his everything and we won it. Well done. He's a rabbits foot .. now he can fuck off, purpose served.
 
Or what? What you will do you shithouse.
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he's a troll. that's what happens. and just look at the language you're using today. get a grip dude
Don't waste your time or energy with him, my man. I've been alive in what feels like forever and met thousands of people along the way, but rarely have I met such an opinionated, arrogant, obnoxious, rude and judgmental individual who gets his kick out of belittling people he doesn't agree with...or just cause it allows him to grandstand online. God knows I'd like to meet him irl someday, to tell him exactly that to his face, the Piers Morgan meets James Corden wannabe. Small dick syndrome in full force.
 
again, chickens and eggs. from my perspective, i saw people point out that ange's tactics were suspect get attacked as 'covert gooners' or bad fans or 'everything that's wrong with the club' and 'why we lose', etc.. personal attacks when we're just discussing football on a football forum. sure, plenty of bad words on both sides of this debate but the fuel was poured on by the ange defenders from the start.

Yep I saw the same thing directed particularly at Deuterz - think I even had a crack myself until I read his posts and realised he was pretty reasonable chap (until he gets pissed off and ends up in the sin bin :D )

But

I think you are ignoring the vastly greater amount of abuse directed at posters, players and manager which is just completely over the top and has been an issue in this fanbase and others. For every Deuterz Deuterz , Doom Funk Doom Funk or Incomplete_usernam Incomplete_usernam you get a daveyboy88 who posts constant abuse and, worse, approvingly posts Darren Bent as a reliable voice on spurs. Which should be instaban in all multiverses :D
 
Stop being ridiculous. He finished 5th last season, with a squad that had just lost Harry Kane, and had to play Emerson Royal at Center back. He absolutely deserves to be the in Premier League.

And some people think the manager of Brentford or Bournemouth are going to be better. lol.

Now let's back him with some decent signings and win the EPL.
Please, if Shaw doesn't score an OG there's no way in the world we were scoring yesterday. We didn't even put a shot on target. No one who watched that match ever saw a scoring threat from us. The players won the match, they won by digging in and refusing to allow a goal. Jose was smiling watching that.

We won precisely because we abandoned Angeball. We won by gritty defending, by doing the opposite of what he's going to come back and try to do, his system that works only if you're Celtic playing men against boys. His system is dogshit, it's the reason we are in 17th, and yes - basic competent football managers like those managing the clubs who are ABOVE US that you are binning, having far less resources than we do and still being miles above, those managers would be likely to improve our fortunes immediately and dramatically.
 
Lol we've had like maybe 3 or 4 "high level performances" in an entire season. That's why we are 17th.

THAT United team were unbeaten in that competition till last night. Fucking THAT United team! Jesus.

Almost nothing is ever guaranteed but there's zero reason to belief we improve. Last night wasn't some team coming together as a well coached side.

It was a typo . I meant also not always
 
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