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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
FightingIllini said:
If a lucky rabbit's foot is all Ange is, so be it, we needed a lucky rabbit's foot.
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I forgot the "actually taking it seriously" factor. Well I did mention it later in the post.

We didn't win the ropey league under Poch because we, on numerous occasions, rotated the team because it was a sideshow to the competitions big teams take seriously.

Ange made it his everything and we won it. Well done. He's a rabbits foot .. now he can fuck off, purpose served.
 
Deuterz said:
Or what? What you will do you shithouse.
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Harry Vaginola said:
he's a troll. that's what happens. and just look at the language you're using today. get a grip dude
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Don't waste your time or energy with him, my man. I've been alive in what feels like forever and met thousands of people along the way, but rarely have I met such an opinionated, arrogant, obnoxious, rude and judgmental individual who gets his kick out of belittling people he doesn't agree with...or just cause it allows him to grandstand online. God knows I'd like to meet him irl someday, to tell him exactly that to his face, the Piers Morgan meets James Corden wannabe. Small dick syndrome in full force.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
again, chickens and eggs. from my perspective, i saw people point out that ange's tactics were suspect get attacked as 'covert gooners' or bad fans or 'everything that's wrong with the club' and 'why we lose', etc.. personal attacks when we're just discussing football on a football forum. sure, plenty of bad words on both sides of this debate but the fuel was poured on by the ange defenders from the start.
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Yep I saw the same thing directed particularly at Deuterz - think I even had a crack myself until I read his posts and realised he was pretty reasonable chap (until he gets pissed off and ends up in the sin bin :D )

But

I think you are ignoring the vastly greater amount of abuse directed at posters, players and manager which is just completely over the top and has been an issue in this fanbase and others. For every Deuterz Deuterz , The Extra Mile(sey) The Extra Mile(sey) or Incomplete_usernam Incomplete_usernam you get a daveyboy88 who posts constant abuse and, worse, approvingly posts Darren Bent as a reliable voice on spurs. Which should be instaban in all multiverses :D
 
harry7 said:
Stop being ridiculous. He finished 5th last season, with a squad that had just lost Harry Kane, and had to play Emerson Royal at Center back. He absolutely deserves to be the in Premier League.

And some people think the manager of Brentford or Bournemouth are going to be better. lol.

Now let's back him with some decent signings and win the EPL.
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Please, if Shaw doesn't score an OG there's no way in the world we were scoring yesterday. We didn't even put a shot on target. No one who watched that match ever saw a scoring threat from us. The players won the match, they won by digging in and refusing to allow a goal. Jose was smiling watching that.

We won precisely because we abandoned Angeball. We won by gritty defending, by doing the opposite of what he's going to come back and try to do, his system that works only if you're Celtic playing men against boys. His system is dogshit, it's the reason we are in 17th, and yes - basic competent football managers like those managing the clubs who are ABOVE US that you are binning, having far less resources than we do and still being miles above, those managers would be likely to improve our fortunes immediately and dramatically.
 
I still think he’s gone in the summer. If Paratici is coming back in a bigger role his views on football do not align with Ange at all. He’ll want someone way more pragmatic if his previous appointments and targets are anything to go by.
 
We beaten United twice in the league - they were shit.

We beaten United en route to League Cup semis - they were shit.

We beaten United to win the Europa League - they were shit.

Fuck me. Why would some posters keep discrediting the effort of the club he/she supports, if he/she does support.
 
kcspurs said:
Please, if Shaw doesn't score an OG there's no way in the world we were scoring yesterday. We didn't even put a shot on target. No one who watched that match ever saw a scoring threat from us. The players won the match, they won by digging in and refusing to allow a goal. Jose was smiling watching that.

We won precisely because we abandoned Angeball. We won by gritty defending, by doing the opposite of what he's going to come back and try to do, his system that works only if you're Celtic playing men against boys. His system is dogshit, it's the reason we are in 17th, and yes - basic competent football managers like those managing the clubs who are ABOVE US that you are binning, having far less resources than we do and still being miles above, those managers would be likely to improve our fortunes immediately and dramatically.
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Jaynola said:
You're such a moments guy. I bet you're the type whenever a hot chick says hi to you, you think that's it I've met my future wife...even though she's actually a nutter and frigid.

Pal, anybody can play the monstrosity Ange has fed us them last few rounds of the Europa League...proper peak 80s Serie A. I bet even Nuno, Jose, Tony Pulis, Big Sam or George friggin Graham thought "fuck me, that's negative anti-football shit". And that was in a comp with the talent level of the Champo.

Funny how your dearly beloved completely shat on his own football principles & philosophy when he realised the only way to save his job & fat paycheck was to play uber scaredy-cat stuff that we'd have murdered other managers for (Spurs or other teams).
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To be clear, if we start next season playing terrorist football from the start, I want him gone faster than shit off a shoe.

But if he has that in the locker plus an adjustment to his usual gung ho style, with slightly more intelligent pressing and more situational decisions to throw bodies forward, then why not be optimistic? This is a group and coach that have a trophy winning culture now
 
glacierSpurs said:
We beaten United twice in the league - they were shit.

We beaten United en route to League Cup semis - they were shit.

We beaten United to win the Europa League - they were shit.

Fuck me. Why would some posters keep discrediting the effort of the club he/she supports, if he/she does support.
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I think some people are realistic even after a big trophy win. It's almost a bit weird, we've had so many years where we are clearly a much better team, with much more quality and not come through. Then this year, we've had the worst ever season in the prem, yet won the EL. It's quite a weird place to be.
 
Richard Arlison said:
To be clear, if we start next season playing terrorist football from the start, I want him gone faster than shit off a shoe.

But if he has that in the locker plus an adjustment to his usual gung ho style, with slightly more intelligent pressing and more situational decisions to throw bodies forward, then why not be optimistic? This is a group and coach that have a trophy winning culture now
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He admitted last night that he plays differently in one off cup competitions than the league, so I don’t see him adjusting his style significantly like you’re hoping for.

Any decision needs to be made objectively removing the emotion of the cup win, otherwise it clouds your judgement.

Sacking a manager a few months into the season is what we want to avoid.
 
kcspurs said:
Please, if Shaw doesn't score an OG there's no way in the world we were scoring yesterday. We didn't even put a shot on target. No one who watched that match ever saw a scoring threat from us. The players won the match, they won by digging in and refusing to allow a goal. Jose was smiling watching that.

We won precisely because we abandoned Angeball. We won by gritty defending, by doing the opposite of what he's going to come back and try to do, his system that works only if you're Celtic playing men against boys. His system is dogshit, it's the reason we are in 17th, and yes - basic competent football managers like those managing the clubs who are ABOVE US that you are binning, having far less resources than we do and still being miles above, those managers would be likely to improve our fortunes immediately and dramatically.
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In fairness to the performance, there were two occasions we were clear 2vs1 and stuffed it up (one Biss to Solanke maybe? another Son one at least). More confidence and we'd have had a comfortable scoreline I reckon - Onana is just a hologram.

Slightest of touches from Johnson but wasn't an OG - it is his movement that caused shaw to flap, though - if Johnson isn't there, the ball doesn't go in - regardless of how much credit anyone might want to take away from him for the goal.
 
Harrier said:
He admitted last night that he plays differently in one off cup competitions than the league, so I don’t see him adjusting his style significantly like you’re hoping for.

Any decision needs to be made objectively removing the emotion of the cup win, otherwise it clouds your judgement.

Sacking a manager a few months into the season is what we want to avoid.
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We sacked Nuno after a few months, every managerial decision has risk. The extra pressure on any new coach replacing Ange, especially with a group of players who clearly love him makes a new coach more likely to get sacked after a few months than Ange imo
 
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