Fair enough.
Dunno why everyone's banging on about the manager when we should all be focusing on the massive great holes in our squad - let alone the overall quality. Let's hope for a big transfer window.
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Fair enough.
Dunno why everyone's banging on about the manager when we should all be focusing on the massive great holes in our squad - let alone the overall quality. Let's hope for a big transfer window.
What if the kit launch tomorrow is Ange wearing the new kit for
Episode 3?
I'm also pretty sad at this affair of things.
To me it seems that people do not understand context of things at all. Like for example difference between trophy and trophy. Saying "I have now witnessed Spurs win a European Trophy" and putting down Poch for 0 trophies is kind of weird.
He got us so freaking close in Champions League. You know, the most high profile and high level competition in the world. All while still being competitive in the league too. While under Ange we won Europa League. Which is so incredibly much weaker than CL that it is shocking. It is like saying that winning Championship is somehow better than to be 2nd or 3rd in EPL. That is plain wrong or overly simplistic. Just saying that trophy for sake of trophy is all that matters makes me think that so many fans would literally go around bragging about becoming U12 master in local spelling bee.
...but only when it's a latter stage cup game apparently.
Old git to you.
I've supported the club for longer and through more trophies, and whilst the FA Cup meant everything, and Ramos' league cup was still a disappointing season, we were previously
regarded as a 'cup team' , so poor league form happened but I still had confidence in the cups.
The past 10+ years I haven't felt like we're a cup team that could win something. I knew we would get dumped out of every cup, but maybe that could change again and could once again see us as a realistic cup threat in every competition.
That only happens with managers that are allowed and take the cups seriously.
I was specifically told and said so here months ago he would not be judged on one game against Man United, no matter the happiness people derived from the win
I remember when Poch first said it wasn't about winning trophies but being able to consistently put yourself in a position to win them that mattered.
Many were pissed at this because they seemed to think he was disrespecting the FA and League cups but I always agreed with him because cup runs are nice but league position is the true marker. I still generally agree with this BUT a European Trophy is a big fucking deal and if it comes at the cost of league position for one year I'm more than happy with it.
BTW: When Poch got us to the CL final it came on the back of an end of year collapse in league form that would carry on into the next season and get him sacked.
Also Poch's 11 was lightyears better than what we have now.
Only if he's sacked so that he doesn't care for the money AEK cannot give him.
Would you take another season like last season, lose 22 matches and finish 17th if it guaranteed winning the CL?
Are you ITK?
can you sweeten the pot and add that you'll fuck off into the sun too?
It's not who we are mate.
To some degree this is just a different philosophy of enjoyment. It’s like trying to convince someone to switch political parties are religion.
Some people think that 17th and a trophy is having a better season than 2nd and no trophy. I’m not one of them and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. But it seems that trying to convince those so deeply entrenched on either side seems pointless.
Some people think that 17th and a trophy is having a better season than 2nd and no trophy. I’m not one of them and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. But it seems that trying to convince those so deeply entrenched on either side seems pointless.
Thing is, it doesn't work like that does it? The vast majority of the time, the CL winners are either champions or 2nd place in their league that season. Success in the league has a very high correlation with cup success. You can't get to a CL final without beating some of the best sides in Europe along the way (one or two seasons might challenge that). This last season was, by any statistitical benchmark, an abberation. The Guardian 'Knowledge' column covered it off last week pretty well.
What are the worst European football finals … based on league position? | The Knowledge
Plus: more strange player-of-the-match awards and shot-shy winners; and did Brian Clough deliberately go down to 10 men?
www.theguardian.com
Edit: This article also contains a very relevant pearl from arguably the greatest manager in England: "The two clubs had drawn the first game 0-0 and Forest were 2-1 up in the first replay when a Roy Keane backpass led to John Salako chipping Mark Crossley from distance and Keane finding himself on the dressing room floor – Clough punched him in the face and said: “Never play the ball back to the goalkeeper.”
Money they cannot give him and might not pay him even if they promised it
If you were available to play as a 10 you should have told Ange.
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why would anyone have to be ITK to know that? pay attention dipstick!