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Management Ange Postecoglou

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The funny thing is, the turgid negative tactics of Jose and Conte were an ever-present grinding problem for the whole fanbase, we were all annoyed by it.

Whereas Ange's refusal to lock down games with a lead is like a dog whistle that drives one contingent of fans completely insane while others wonder what all the bother is about.
It's results mate. Most fans are more excited by winning football than cavalier football that has your club under achieving and languishing in mid table.
I found Conte's last 16 games of the 21 / 22 season when we qualified for the CL at Woolwich's expense far more enjoyable than the first 16 games of this season
 
It's results mate. Most fans are more excited by winning football than cavalier football that has your club under achieving and languishing in mid table.
I found Conte's last 16 games of the 21 / 22 season when we qualified for the CL at Woolwich's expense far more enjoyable than the first 16 games of this season
No I take the point and agree, and we actually issued a fair few thrashings during that run-in, most memorably Woolwich. Conte's a hell of a coach.

But we all knew a dire 1-0 slog when we saw it.

Whereas honest to god, I get mad at our defensive lapses when we concede and I do think there's an overarching defensive vulnerability to Angeball, but the idea that we're supposed to totally change strategically with a lead just doesn't occur to me as I'm watching.

Whereas some fans and especially some pundits are like crawling out of their skin when Pedro Porro makes his normal underlapping run into the box up 2-0 in a game we're dominating.

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It's results mate. Most fans are more excited by winning football than cavalier football that has your club under achieving and languishing in mid table.
I found Conte's last 16 games of the 21 / 22 season when we qualified for the CL at Woolwich's expense far more enjoyable than the first 16 games of this season

thats maybe because the last 16 games had finality to it, like the last round of a golf tournament compared to the opening round

when you have this sort of game in a cup final or europa league semi or to get into 5th, then its exciting
 
For what it’s worth, I think Ange has not helped himself here with some of his statements and quips to the media. He should know they will take him at his word when he’s sometimes being facetious.


Ange Postecoglou has said he finds some of the criticism towards him “offensive” and vowed to carry on ignoring Jamie Carragher after the former Liverpool defender urged the Tottenham Hotspur players to go against their head coach’s instructions.

Postecoglou’s side came through a chaotic Carabao Cup quarter-final against Manchester United on Thursday, eventually winning 4-3 after letting a 3-0 lead slip to 3-2 after two errors caused by back-passes to the goalkeeper Fraser Forster.

Carragher, the Sky Sports pundit, suggested that the 59-year-old’s approach was to blame and that his players should have rejected his instructions. “The manager has told you to play a certain way but someone has to get a grip and say, ‘No, we are changing for the next five or ten minutes,’ ” he said.


“It frustrates me when players can’t see how the game state changes and recognise they have to change their approach to suit it.”


On Friday Postecoglou responded by saying: “There is some stuff out there I find just offensive towards me. I’m up here with a silly accent and maybe I don’t take things as seriously as people want me to and I’m fairly dismissive of them, but that’s all right. I love my life and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

“I don’t need validation from anybody to do what I do. I love the fact people are talking about and analysing our games. I’d rather that than us be anonymous and no one talk about us, or we’re just grinding out an existence.

“You have to be prepared for scrutiny, you have to be prepared for criticism, but it won’t change what I believe, because what I believe is born from a lifetime of experiences and values that I won’t let anyone tamper with from the outside.

“Because if you’re going to jump every time, it tells me you don’t really have a lot of belief in this building about what we’re doing, if we’re always going to worry about what he is saying.



“Someone like Jamie is there to give his opinion and will not stand there and say, ‘I’ve got nothing to say.’ Some of the other stuff I don’t understand, because it’s just about getting headlines, but again if you react to that [then] it kind of says more about you than anything else.”

Postecoglou believes Aston Villa manager Unai Emery had been treated unfairly when he was at Woolwich, and Nottingham Forest’s Nuno Espirito Santo in a brief spell at Spurs.

“You kind of feel that 26 years of hard graft should get you a little more respect and I’m not the only one,” he said. “I have seen it happen to Unai and Nuno when he was here.

“I get that not everyone will be a fan of the way I do things and even the way I play people will have different opinions. That’s normal, that’s healthy but some of it has been pretty dismissive.”


Slot is such a fan of Angeball that he declared he hoped Spurs win a trophy under him because it would be “good for football”.

Postecoglou did not see himself as a Messiah figure or a showman, though.

“I don’t think I’m an evangelist for the whole game,” he said. “To quote Monty Python, I’m just a naughty little boy.

“It’s what I love about football. There has got to be differences, people who are prepared to do thing a little bit differently.

“That allows opinion, that allows emotion. I hate to think people think I am some sort of showman — I want to win. That is still the core of my being.”

Postecoglou also insisted Joshua Zirkzee’s goal for United, which made it 3-1 would have been ruled out by VAR had it been in operation.

The Australian also revealed he had told the EFL, who consulted all the clubs involved in the last-eight ties before deciding to do without VAR until the semi-finals, that he did not want it on the night.

“Zirkzee was actually in the box pressing when he should have been — what he did was illegal,” he said. “But anyway we’ll let that run because there was no VAR last night. That was my decision so I’m happy with that.”

Tottenham’s win set up a Carabao Cup quarter-final meeting with Carragher’s former side Liverpool, who they also face at home in the Premier League on Sunday.
 
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Like 3 people aren’t everyone. There are people who don’t like me who manage to avoid it, and then sad acts like you who constantly quote me despite me never quoting you ever unless you directly engage with me.

You represent loads of things I hate (EDL). I have zero respect for you as a person, yet I manage to avoid stalking you round the forum. It’s not hard.

Telling who gave you a like emoji!

lol 😝

Most people would be embarrassed but you probably lap it up!!

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It's results mate. Most fans are more excited by winning football than cavalier football that has your club under achieving and languishing in mid table.
I found Conte's last 16 games of the 21 / 22 season when we qualified for the CL at Woolwich's expense far more enjoyable than the first 16 games of this season
In fairness we played some great stuff during this time. All fell apart CL qualification and we never looked the same again I thought.

Shame really, I thought Conte was going to achieve good things but 22/23 was one of the most painful times I can remember watching Spurs.
 

Ange Postecoglou has said he finds some of the criticism towards him “offensive” and vowed to carry on ignoring Jamie Carragher after the former Liverpool defender urged the Tottenham Hotspur players to go against their head coach’s instructions.

Postecoglou’s side came through a chaotic Carabao Cup quarter-final against Manchester United on Thursday, eventually winning 4-3 after letting a 3-0 lead slip to 3-2 after two errors caused by back-passes to the goalkeeper Fraser Forster.

Carragher, the Sky Sports pundit, suggested that the 59-year-old’s approach was to blame and that his players should have rejected his instructions. “The manager has told you to play a certain way but someone has to get a grip and say, ‘No, we are changing for the next five or ten minutes,’ ” he said.


“It frustrates me when players can’t see how the game state changes and recognise they have to change their approach to suit it.”


On Friday Postecoglou responded by saying: “There is some stuff out there I find just offensive towards me. I’m up here with a silly accent and maybe I don’t take things as seriously as people want me to and I’m fairly dismissive of them, but that’s all right. I love my life and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

“I don’t need validation from anybody to do what I do. I love the fact people are talking about and analysing our games. I’d rather that than us be anonymous and no one talk about us, or we’re just grinding out an existence.

“You have to be prepared for scrutiny, you have to be prepared for criticism, but it won’t change what I believe, because what I believe is born from a lifetime of experiences and values that I won’t let anyone tamper with from the outside.

“Because if you’re going to jump every time, it tells me you don’t really have a lot of belief in this building about what we’re doing, if we’re always going to worry about what he is saying.



“Someone like Jamie is there to give his opinion and will not stand there and say, ‘I’ve got nothing to say.’ Some of the other stuff I don’t understand, because it’s just about getting headlines, but again if you react to that [then] it kind of says more about you than anything else.”

Postecoglou believes Aston Villa manager Unai Emery had been treated unfairly when he was at Woolwich, and Nottingham Forest’s Nuno Espirito Santo in a brief spell at Spurs.

“You kind of feel that 26 years of hard graft should get you a little more respect and I’m not the only one,” he said. “I have seen it happen to Unai and Nuno when he was here.

“I get that not everyone will be a fan of the way I do things and even the way I play people will have different opinions. That’s normal, that’s healthy but some of it has been pretty dismissive.”


Slot is such a fan of Angeball that he declared he hoped Spurs win a trophy under him because it would be “good for football”.

Postecoglou did not see himself as a Messiah figure or a showman, though.

“I don’t think I’m an evangelist for the whole game,” he said. “To quote Monty Python, I’m just a naughty little boy.

“It’s what I love about football. There has got to be differences, people who are prepared to do thing a little bit differently.

“That allows opinion, that allows emotion. I hate to think people think I am some sort of showman — I want to win. That is still the core of my being.”

Postecoglou also insisted Joshua Zirkzee’s goal for United, which made it 3-1 would have been ruled out by VAR had it been in operation.

The Australian also revealed he had told the EFL, who consulted all the clubs involved in the last-eight ties before deciding to do without VAR until the semi-finals, that he did not want it on the night.

“Zirkzee was actually in the box pressing when he should have been — what he did was illegal,” he said. “But anyway we’ll let that run because there was no VAR last night. That was my decision so I’m happy with that.”

Tottenham’s win set up a Carabao Cup quarter-final meeting with Carragher’s former side Liverpool, who they also face at home in the Premier League on Sunday.
I wish they still did Celebrity Deathmatch.

Ange would demolish Carra.
 
I'm not sure Carragher is saying things with malicious intent. Some pragmatism on the pitch at the right times could balance the relentless high risk tactics, without compromising the overall attacking philosophy.

On the other hand, Carragher spits at young girls so he may just be a cunt.
 
okay so no counter that losing 1 game in 6 is supposedly being schooled...it was just a garbage post.
got it.
carry on
ok, so you're impressed. Good on ya sport (little cliche thrown in for the aussie forum guys) . Lucky against Glasgow Rangers, Galatasaray were all over Spurs, Roma at home, Ferensomeone and the other one. It may improve. But but my post is garbage. Ok wise man.:bow:
 
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