could be the vibe? after Asian Cup heroics and some heart thumping gestures (I luv you guys), I think he then resigned before the next World Cup. read something about being disillusioned. makes a great story and more rambling..
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Can't argue with that...
Yup, Facts are facts....
Up for debate, and slightly irrelevant, as you COULD argue that Liverpool had priorities elsewhere....
Anyway, the point is, whilst all of those points have true elements to them, here we are, Spurs AND Newcastle both in the Champions League...
...and at least WE didn't have to wait until the final day of the season to discover OUR fate in the CL!!!
ALL I'm saying is, at the start of the season, the rules said whoever wins the EL Trophy gets a place in the CL next season...
There was NO caveat to where that team was obliged or required to finish in their respective domestic League table....
No we don't deserve CL football based on our league position... But then again, we're not trying to appeal to UEFA's compassionate side by asking to be let in anyway
... We did what was required and won the ONE trophy (other than the League) that gets you CL football.
Had Newcastle 'just' won the League Cup but finished 6th, they would NOT be where we are...
Face it, we beat the SYSTEM!
...and in doing so, have sent the rest of football into meltdown cause the CAN'T HANDLE THR TRUTH!
Newcastle deserve their place based on league position.... We deserve ours based on winning the Europa League!!
Sounds fair to me.... I don't see the problem officer!
Incredible isn’t it. “A trophy winning manager is a trophy winning manager, but a new mystery manager could be anything. They could even be a trophy winning manager!”
Tell you what, shall we just hand back the Europa League trophy (seeing as we're SO undeserving!) in exchange for what people deem an acceptable number of league points, they still probably wouldn't have got us into the Top 5...
Our aim this season was to WIN A TROPHY ✓
...and somehow qualify for the Champions League ✓✓
We did BOTH... with ONE TROPHY!!
yes, the League was piss poor as a result, but I wouldn't swap last Wednesday-Sunday for anything
... Least of all an 'acceptable' 6th place finish and NO trophy, which would be had us pretty much back to where we started in August!
Exactly, what we really want is a manager that won a trophy in their first management role. Or, even better, if they came out the womb holding a trophy, that's the man for us!!
What does this emotional nonsense have to do with whether we should keep the coach or not? We know we won it. We know that doesn’t make Ange good automatically as we can all reel off cup winning coaches who aren’t good.
This thread is for debating. We all know that trophy + CL qualification is a good result on paper but people are questioning the method and if we will ever progress.
There will be no Europa league to enter next year, no Bodo or United in a final to save us, so you’ll be staking everything on the horrific league form drastically improving. Good luck.
I think you're right.
Come on...this is demonstrably false - unless you count things like the Audi cup, etc.
As much as I admit that I'm caught up in the romanticism of the occasion, I'm no more keen than anyone else to watch another PL season of the dross we've been served up under Ange.
Of course, 22 defeats cannot be ignored, but to say anyone on their day can win a major trophy is frankly absurd. At the risk of sounding like a broken record - he's the first bloke in 41 years to do this for this club!!!
Definitely- very fortunate finish for us.
Why do you choose to come in here and lie about Big Ange??
What’s your agenda mate??
Get your facts straight and show the Big man some respect!!!
-9GD???
It was -6!!!! FFS.
I think your idea of solid and most people’s may differ slightly.
But I will say playing attacking football where losing 3 games out of 3 while scoring 3 goals and conceding 9 is definitely something we have all got used to giving Ange credit for!
Even he acknowledged that it was not working and went full on Italian defensive style football.
Very true. It's just that their supporters will be happy with their cup win and their league position.
Only -6 you say - Well! that changes EVERYTHING then init
I think he'd have taken Eze over Oddbert all day long if he had that choice. He'd have taken Neto over him too. And there's probably a bunch of strikers He'd have taken over Solanke if we were prepared to pay the wages to secure them.
Like any other manager we've had, our limited wage structure means he has a very limited pool of players in the transfer market to choose from.
If we're still under Ange next season I'd be wiling to bet any amount of money we'll be 10 points minimum off top spot by 1 Jan.
how much you willing to lose?
Both can be true.
The club had finished 8th. The morale was poor, the relationship between fans and the club had taken a dive. Kane had one foot out.
Not talked about much is the loss of Perisic-he was very important before his injury.
I thought he wanted Eze bu we bought Solanke?
Only -6 you say - Well! that changes EVERYTHING then init
Well I had a client who used to work in the adult entertainment industry.
She told me there’s a very very big difference between 6, 9 and 12!!