He didn’t want eze last summer he preferred players like Solanke and oddbert.
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Management Ange Postecoglou
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100% Ange cannot coach a team to play good solid attacking football. It’s just throw your cards in the air and see what happens. How comes a 32 yr old rookie can get his Brighton team to play football we could only dream about. Whilst spending far less on players most of which we would shit on. His had one season only. I’d like our team to play like Brighton with our better players. Not too much to ask!
Not sure what you mean by just posting 17th? Like it's definitive evidence of being fraudulant?
- Noun.
'a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.'
Did he categorically state that he has the skill set to never finish as low as 17th?
The only thing he ever claimed was that he ALWAYS wins a trophy in his 2nd season.....so unless you have evidence that during his interview with Levy he stated that he will never finish 17th, I think fraud is the wrong term.
Unsuitable, unacceptable, tactically naive are all terms I'd use to describe Ange's management of the club.....but he's never been fraudulant.
It's not fraudulant though is it.....he did exactly what he said he'd do....in fact it's the complete opposite of fraudulant!
I don't think Ange is fraudulent. I just don't think he's good enough at this level. He may have won a cup but, anyone one on any given day can do that. He lucked out. 22 defeats cannot be ignored
That’s just factually incorrect. Go watch Australia at the 2014 World Cup!
I completely agree with you there. I'm not excited about next season. If we'd finished 5th again, and won the cup, and invested, I think there would be real excitement about what we could do next season.
However I just can't see it under Ange.
How do you know this?
I don't understand why it would take 10 matches to be found out. Are PL managers completely idiots?
I don't buy this narrative. Better look for other reasons.
2014?
Played 3 lost 3 goal difference of -9. Obviously out in the groups.
could be the vibe? after Asian Cup heroics and some heart thumping gestures (I luv you guys), I think he then resigned before the next World Cup. read something about being disillusioned. makes a great story and more rambling..
Can't argue with that...
Yup, Facts are facts....
Up for debate, and slightly irrelevant, as you COULD argue that Liverpool had priorities elsewhere....
Anyway, the point is, whilst all of those points have true elements to them, here we are, Spurs AND Newcastle both in the Champions League...
...and at least WE didn't have to wait until the final day of the season to discover OUR fate in the CL!!!
ALL I'm saying is, at the start of the season, the rules said whoever wins the EL Trophy gets a place in the CL next season...
There was NO caveat to where that team was obliged or required to finish in their respective domestic League table....
No we don't deserve CL football based on our league position... But then again, we're not trying to appeal to UEFA's compassionate side by asking to be let in anyway
... We did what was required and won the ONE trophy (other than the League) that gets you CL football.
Had Newcastle 'just' won the League Cup but finished 6th, they would NOT be where we are...
Face it, we beat the SYSTEM!
...and in doing so, have sent the rest of football into meltdown cause the CAN'T HANDLE THR TRUTH!
Newcastle deserve their place based on league position.... We deserve ours based on winning the Europa League!!
Sounds fair to me.... I don't see the problem officer!
Incredible isn’t it. “A trophy winning manager is a trophy winning manager, but a new mystery manager could be anything. They could even be a trophy winning manager!”
Tell you what, shall we just hand back the Europa League trophy (seeing as we're SO undeserving!) in exchange for what people deem an acceptable number of league points, they still probably wouldn't have got us into the Top 5...
Our aim this season was to WIN A TROPHY ✓
...and somehow qualify for the Champions League ✓✓
We did BOTH... with ONE TROPHY!!
yes, the League was piss poor as a result, but I wouldn't swap last Wednesday-Sunday for anything
... Least of all an 'acceptable' 6th place finish and NO trophy, which would be had us pretty much back to where we started in August!
Exactly, what we really want is a manager that won a trophy in their first management role. Or, even better, if they came out the womb holding a trophy, that's the man for us!!
What does this emotional nonsense have to do with whether we should keep the coach or not? We know we won it. We know that doesn’t make Ange good automatically as we can all reel off cup winning coaches who aren’t good.
This thread is for debating. We all know that trophy + CL qualification is a good result on paper but people are questioning the method and if we will ever progress.
There will be no Europa league to enter next year, no Bodo or United in a final to save us, so you’ll be staking everything on the horrific league form drastically improving. Good luck.
I think you're right.
Come on...this is demonstrably false - unless you count things like the Audi cup, etc.
As much as I admit that I'm caught up in the romanticism of the occasion, I'm no more keen than anyone else to watch another PL season of the dross we've been served up under Ange.
Of course, 22 defeats cannot be ignored, but to say anyone on their day can win a major trophy is frankly absurd. At the risk of sounding like a broken record - he's the first bloke in 41 years to do this for this club!!!