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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
When Ange is sacked, he'll never get a job in the premier league ever again and that speaks volumes about how bad of an appointment he has been for us and why we should have ended it after the Ipswich defeat.
 
what do you think happened at that point? Do you think everywhere else, he has managed to convince the fans early on and we're just too jaded and cynical?

We've seen this time and again, it's so tiring. I've barely been on the forum this year as I couldn't face it, and the thought of going to a game and renewing my ST isn't something that appeals. 43 years as a fan, it can get you down at times, stepping back a little feels like a sensible idea...
Summit like that...
Plus, being Celtic manager, he must understand bitter rivalry, but it's been from the other end of the telescope...

Celtic had Rangers at arms length for years... Ange just continued that dominance.

Spurs have been threatening to overtake Woolwich, but in truth, it never really amounted to much, and we resorted to type, by having to 'support' whoever Woolwich were playing... Even at the detriment of our own achievements...

That's something I genuinely don't think he could grasp, and I think a lot of love and goodwill was lost that week... On BOTH sides!

Then again, had he not coached us to 3-4 successive defeats in the run up to that City game, we wouldn't have had anything to worry about, and would've been comfortably in 4th place!
 
Being generous I make it three (Jol, Redknapp, Poch).

BUT:

- Jol was an assistant who only got the job cos Santini resigned
- Redknapp was a mid-season knee-jerk hire to save us from Ramos
- Poch was 2nd choice behind Van Gaal

So really, you could say he's got none right. At least, none that involved any thought or planning.

Doesn't really bode well.
Tbf, it’s much harder to get a coach for a ‘big’ club because the expectations is much higher - reactive football isn’t really tolerated by the fans as a rule (Chelsea and Woolwich aside, but they don’t count as they have no class or taste) - look at MU since SAF retired. Not counting ‘Pool at the moment as that’s mainly Klopp’s squad and City are falling apart - reserve judgement for a season.
 
The point is that we are going to have to roll the dice and change something

We are on a collision course with a fucking huge iceberg

I don't even want fucking Ryan mason , no one does

We are losing every single week and nothing is changing , bringing in mason still probably won't change anything but it's as close to guaranteed if we stick with the Aussie Buffoon

But then you know this

Contrarian gotta be contrary

You're literally agreeing with me 😂
 
Thing is, I'm fairly certain that when the injury list clears up enough, we won't even be flirting with relegation.

The question then is: who can come in now, or is it another Mason caretaker job?

If the new manager (whoever it is) would be shit in the cups then I wouldn't want to bring them in now. The cups are pretty much all we're left with now. Unless, of course, there emerged such a terrible mood in the team over Ange being a dead man walking that literally any change would perk them up.
 
The fact that we look horrible defensively under Ange and don't know what we're doing.

I really can't see anyone doing worse in that regard.

Might as well get me in in that case, if we're changing for the sake of changing

Levy might as well hire himself for the job

Changing the manager just because 'the alternative' cannot be this bad isn't an argument, it's desperation and stupidity.
 
There are players on that list that have won more prestigious silverware too.

Regardless, players winning after leaving - which is about 30+ now - continues to grow.
He knows that full and well but he's trolling because Ange is his boy and he has to defend the indefensible, apparently players leave Spurs now to play in Moldova, pathetic.
 
Summit like that...
Plus, being Celtic manager, he must understand bitter rivalry, but it's been from the other end of the telescope...

Celtic had Rangers at arms length for years... Ange just continued that dominance.

Spurs have been threatening to overtake Woolwich, but in truth, it never really amounted to much, and we resorted to type, by having to 'support' whoever Woolwich were playing... Even at the detriment of our own achievements...

That's something I genuinely don't think he could grasp, and I think a lot of love and goodwill was lost that week... On BOTH sides!

Then again, had he not coached us to 3-4 successive defeats in the run up to that City game, we wouldn't have had anything to worry about, and would've been comfortably in 4th place!
We’ve spent years demanding winners play for us and manage us. Then we said we didn’t want to win that particular match. Maybe obvious for you, but wasn’t for everyone. I wanted us to beat City. I want us to win more than I want that other lot to lose.

Nothing against anyone who thinks differently, but I get why Ange thought it was strange. And as you point out, he knows all about rivalry. The old firm rivalry is many times more bitter than ours with the squatters.
 
Read it on some Football London article.

Fair on you mate for getting a source but it sounds like conjecture:

"It is also worth noting that sacking him could cost the club £12million and it is very unlike Spurs to part ways with such funds unless it is absolutely necessary."

ie, guesswork based on his salary.

Knowing Levy, and given the fact he'll have known the average length of a manager at Spurs is about 18 months, I'd be shocked if he didn't stipulate any payout would be far lower than the rest of his contract.
 
Ali Gold:

Also asked Postecoglou if his future is at risk because of the lack of help he's had in the transfer market:

"I separate myself from that. This is not about me, but what is about me right now is I have the responsibility of the group of players I do have to try and get us through this & that's what I've got to focus on. For me to focus on anything else is abstaining myself from the responsibility I have.

I'm just determined to get us out of this. The club's doing its best to...more about helping the players than helping because they're the ones we're asking some massive jobs of 18-year-olds. We had a 17-year-old out there trying to win games of football for us. And others who are just playing week on week, so you know it's more about getting the players help rather than me help"
 
Still hope I’m wrong ; but can’t help
thinking Ange to Spurs is an acute example of the Peter Principle ; for you managent scientists out there .

I regret having to make this post ; but I fear it ain’t incorrect.
 
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