Agreed with a lot of this.
It's why I think a Silva or a Marco Rose are a better fit for us (and NO, it's not because I want a manager with the first name, Marco).
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Agreed with a lot of this.
It's why I think a Silva or a Marco Rose are a better fit for us (and NO, it's not because I want a manager with the first name, Marco).
His interview style got him a lot of positive feedback at first, but ironically it's now probably the source of a lot of the negativity toward him. I think sometimes foreign managers have an advantage because they can get away with saying less. Postecoglou is going to launch into long discussion of himself and his philosophy and I think it's just worn thin over time.
As an Aussie it's sad to say but the reality is that the Premier League is a level too far for Ange. He hasnt adapted to how football is played at the higher levels in Europe, rather he has tried to import the Australian model where the sporting mindset is one which promotes physicality and athleticism over tactical and strategic nous.
Ange just doesn't have the capability of adapting his tactics or rotating his squad effectively, he uses a set base of players, runs them to the ground and repeats again until there is barely anyone left to form a starting 11. It works in Aus or other lesser leagues where you can physically out perform opponents in leagues with less games and no cup competitions, it doesnt here against opponents who are physically at peak fitness themselves managed by people who get the most out of their squads and play smarter football.
I wish it worked for Ange, but the last few months especially have shown that this is a level too far. I commend him for putting himself out there to try and compete at the highest level but it hasn't worked. It's a level where you need to adapt and be flexible in your startegy whilst protecting your players, not trying to train them as if they're thoroughbred race horses, inevitably this is what happens, a squad of perpetually injured players and no ideas in how to fix it.
Ange just doesn't have the capability of adapting his tactics or rotating his squad effectively, he uses a set base of players, runs them to the ground and repeats again until there is barely anyone left to form a starting 11. It works in Aus or other lesser leagues where you can physically out perform opponents in leagues with less games and no cup competitions, it doesnt here against opponents who are physically at peak fitness themselves managed by people who get the most out of their squads and play smarter football.
I wish it worked for Ange, but the last few months especially have shown that this is a level too far. I commend him for putting himself out there to try and compete at the highest level but it hasn't worked. It's a level where you need to adapt and be flexible in your startegy whilst protecting your players, not trying to train them as if they're thoroughbred race horses, inevitably this is what happens, a squad of perpetually injured players and no ideas in how to fix it.
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Possession doesn't equal advantage. Think about all the times you've felt like a team was just about to score in the final third because they are applying pressure and taking the defense out of their shape. Spurs are usually slow to arrive in the final third and don't apply much pressure.
Well, its good we are playing Liverpool and not Ipswich in the semi then!
I don't need to explain that, I explained what happened here.
Between the "it's down to injuries crew" and the "not yet without a plan" crew, we unfortunately have too much of the fan base still living in denial.
Let’s be honest. How many bigger jobs are out there than the Tottenham job, maybe 5 clubs in England (city, pool, Woolwich, Chelsea and united) Bayern, the two Spanish giants, juventus maybe, and for money and city PSG. That isn’t a huge amount of jobs for the 1000’s of managers competing for roles. Plus 90% of the above have younger coaches who should be at the job for at least 3 more years. That’s a lifetime in management! if Iraola has a bad season at Bournemouth next year (maybe two games a week, likely sell their best players during the summer etc) he might never get a shot at a big job again. I think with our young squad and similar style he would jump at the chance. We could also easily pay him £5-6m a year for a good long contract which dwarfs his 2 year £1m per season at Bournemouth
It’s both. We’re short of players AND Ange didn’t help with his lack of rotation and subs early on. I haven’t listened to the pod but have seen some of the quotes elsewhere. At the moment they aren’t overtraining but probably because everyone is being wrapped in bubble wrap. Earlier on when we didn’t have loads of injuries and back to back games, maybe that was different.
It’s like the old saying that shit happens to everyone, but why is shit always happening to Ange? The squad has been left criminally thin but there’s enough smoke to say that something we’re doing behind the scenes has contributed .
Post moved to Clutter.Are you a child?
The children are people like you who can see this clown week after week and still think that he's the answer. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I make it about 17 jobs bigger than the Spurs job.
City, Liverpool, Woolwich, Chelsea, United, Barca, Athletico, Real, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli, Lazio, PSG, Bayern, Dotrmund, RedBull L
Also worth considering Ajax, Porto, Savilla, Benfica and maybe Newcastle.
Most of those clubs are also more attractive for players, with guarenteed Champs League football year after year.
There really isn’t
Fully agree on the last point and we were definitely expecting more like that from Ange. I think he’s been deterred a bit by all the extra time that gets played at the end of games due to non-stop time-wasting in this league.
Per your first point, I think we have seen domination over games in the PL when teams have admitted that they couldn’t do anything to keep the ball. We definitely can’t do it right now with the injuries but with a relatively fresh squad, there’s probably 3 - 4 teams in the PL where we weren’t expecting 60%+ possession and huge territory advantages.
Tell me what they are doing in training that isn’t normal and safe. You are the one making the claims here, not me.
Not what we are talking about here.
View: https://x.com/stoppassingback/status/1881759399389348174?s=46&t=fbqxNuG9CT4qTaiJx8mBjg
In the words ofShadydan Ali Gold cooked here.
If you’ve allowed yourself to buy into the idea that Ange’s training is at fault for injuries, have a word with yourself. You’ve just got carried away with an internet narrative,
Sameway, our defenders don’t actually do any more sprints than the next team so it isn’t the system causing injuries either.
Ange has some part to play in it, and he’s the manager so ultimately it’s his responsibility but if you really think he’s to blame and it’s not because the squad has been left short, you really need to give your head a wobble.
Doesn't suit the narrative though
Agree.
And tbh, whether or not the club realizes at the end of the year that they went into this half baked and need you change direction, the most likely person to rescue anything from this season in the meantime, is IMO Ange because he has more experience in his system and the challenges unique to it.