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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Why do you care? I get it why you’d care about Ange and his performance for us, but why are you so absolutely vexed that there may be other fans that don’t agree with you?

Seems to be a thing in here, same in the ENIC thread and a few of the player threads. Less shit getting thrown the way of the subject and more thrown at people who don’t think exactly how you want them to.

Posters that do this are narcissistic weirdos. Stop searching for acclaim and accord everywhere you go. Some people will always disagree with you. Accept it.
If we all had the same opinion it would be a very boring world.
It is quite humorous though to see how people react/ respond to differing opinions. It’s like the school yard, name calling at 10 paces.
 
If we all had the same opinion it would be a very boring world.
It is quite humorous though to see how people react/ respond to differing opinions. It’s like the school yard, name calling at 10 paces.
I’d go further than humorous. I think it’s quite concerning that actual adults act in this way. The need to be agreed with. The need to target people who don’t agree with them. It’s the kind of behaviour I’d expect of kids at primary. As you say, name calling at 10 paces. We are becoming soft as fuck as a society if these folk are any reflection of the general public.
 
There really isn’t
Or maybe the fact that Ange does not have a strength and conditioning coach or fitness coaches has something to do with it. He leaves the players to do their own gym work and concentrates on training with the ball.

Then on top of that Ange instructs the coaches and they drill the team. We then have a very inexperienced set of coaches most working for Spurs prior at a youth level.

Simple fact is Ange prefers that and seeing that none of these coaches are experts in sports science or fitness. Maybe just maybe that, the tactics we play and the fact we cannot rotate is feeding into an ever bigger injury crisis.

To absolve Ange of all blame is stupid and short sighted.
 
Or maybe the fact that Ange does not have a strength and conditioning coach or fitness coaches has something to do with it. He leaves the players to do their own gym work and concentrates on training with the ball.
Why would he have a strength and conditioning coach? Hes not playing.

I’m pretty sure the club has one for the players. Tbh I be surprised if they have had less than 5 S&C coaches.
 
Let’s be honest. How many bigger jobs are out there than the Tottenham job, maybe 5 clubs in England (city, pool, Woolwich, Chelsea and united) Bayern, the two Spanish giants, juventus maybe, and for money and city PSG. That isn’t a huge amount of jobs for the 1000’s of managers competing for roles. Plus 90% of the above have younger coaches who should be at the job for at least 3 more years. That’s a lifetime in management! if Iraola has a bad season at Bournemouth next year (maybe two games a week, likely sell their best players during the summer etc) he might never get a shot at a big job again. I think with our young squad and similar style he would jump at the chance. We could also easily pay him £5-6m a year for a good long contract which dwarfs his 2 year £1m per season at Bournemouth

Ok, we can pay a higher salary than most but I dont think we will attract a ‘special’ up and coming manager. There’s the old football adage, ‘’choose the chairman, not the club’. So any super bright and ambitious manager with look at Levy’s shit decision makings in the transfer market, note that manager after manager has not been given the tools they need and decide to go elsewhere.
It used to be that our former players left and went on to win silverware…..in a similarly disappointing way our recent sacked managers have gone on to enjoy better fortune elsewhere.
I bet Slot pats himself on the back everyday for turning us down.
Its depressing. Nothing will change until Enic change.
 
Why would he have a strength and conditioning coach? Hes not playing.

I’m pretty sure the club has one for the players. Tbh I be surprised if they have had less than 5 S&C coaches.
A strength and conditioning coach is very common thing now days and fitness coaches have been common place the last 20/30 years. At the moment Spurs have neither. Unlike with a best manager in the last 20 years there is no one on staff that does this. Ange actually sacked the strength and conditioning coach because he believes players know what is best for their own bodies.
 
I make it about 17 jobs bigger than the Spurs job.

City, Liverpool, Woolwich, Chelsea, United, Barca, Athletico, Real, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli, Lazio, PSG, Bayern, Dotrmund, RedBull L

Also worth considering Ajax, Porto, Savilla, Benfica and maybe Newcastle.

Most of those clubs are also more attractive for players, with guarenteed Champs League football year after year.
Between this and your "I don't understand why Spurs fans get upset about being shit" nonsense you're either the most downbeat and defeated Spurs fan in existence or you're a troll.
 
I make it about 17 jobs bigger than the Spurs job.

City, Liverpool, Woolwich, Chelsea, United, Barca, Athletico, Real, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli, Lazio, PSG, Bayern, Dotrmund, RedBull L

Also worth considering Ajax, Porto, Savilla, Benfica and maybe Newcastle.

Most of those clubs are also more attractive for players, with guarenteed Champs League football year after year.

Absolute nonsense. The spurs job is bigger than at least half of those you've listed.

Go back to the drawing board and start again.

You can fuck off with the likes of Newcastle, Ajax, Porto, Seville, Benfica, Dortmund, Atletico and RB Leipzig for a start. Not convinced that those Italian clubs are bigger jobs than the spurs one either, frankly.
 
A strength and conditioning coach is very common thing now days and fitness coaches have been common place the last 20/30 years. At the moment Spurs have neither. Unlike with a best manager in the last 20 years there is no one on staff that does this. Ange actually sacked the strength and conditioning coach because he believes players know what is best for their own bodies.
You really think we don’t have any S&C coaches at the club atm?
 
Absolute nonsense. The spurs job is bigger than at least half of those you've listed.

Go back to the drawing board and start again.

You can fuck off with the likes of Newcastle, Ajax, Porto, Seville, Benfica, Dortmund, Atletico and RB Leipzig for a start. Not convinced that those Italian clubs are bigger jobs than the spurs one either, frankly.
RB Leipzig.

Pee Wee Lol GIF
 
Absolute nonsense. The spurs job is bigger than at least half of those you've listed.

Go back to the drawing board and start again.

You can fuck off with the likes of Newcastle, Ajax, Porto, Seville, Benfica, Dortmund, Atletico and RB Leipzig for a start. Not convinced that those Italian clubs are bigger jobs than the spurs one either, frankly.
Newcastle have more money for coach wages and will go higher for transfer fees and wages on elite players. If I wasn’t a spurs fan and deciding between the 2 as a manager, it wouldn’t be an easy decision. Especially looking at the way Newcastle stuck by Howe during their injury crisis last year and the way this club always mysteriously has training ground leaks before sacking a coach….
 
Newcastle have more money for coach wages and will go higher for transfer fees and wages on elite players. If I wasn’t a spurs fan and deciding between the 2 as a manager, it wouldn’t be an easy decision. Especially looking at the way Newcastle stuck by Howe during their injury crisis last year and the way this club always mysteriously has training ground leaks before sacking a coach….

That doesn't make them a bigger club/job than us.
 

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Some have questioned whether Postecoglou's training sessions have been too intense for a small, jaded group of players but Porro shot down such talk, making it clear that there was no time for heavy sessions among all of the matches and recovery time involved, with each player carefully managed through each week as much as possible.

"We have a plan for all of our training. Those players who aren't playing so much have their own plan to come back and me too, I train at the club but I also do my own work outside the club, recovery work, prevention of injury," he said.

"Everyone has their own schedule, if the training sessions are less intense it's for those players coming back, they have the training they need, and also for the players who are playing, we need a lot of recovery."
 
A strength and conditioning coach is very common thing now days and fitness coaches have been common place the last 20/30 years. At the moment Spurs have neither. Unlike with a best manager in the last 20 years there is no one on staff that does this. Ange actually sacked the strength and conditioning coach because he believes players know what is best for their own bodies.
You missed the joke
 
Or maybe the fact that Ange does not have a strength and conditioning coach or fitness coaches has something to do with it. He leaves the players to do their own gym work and concentrates on training with the ball.

Then on top of that Ange instructs the coaches and they drill the team. We then have a very inexperienced set of coaches most working for Spurs prior at a youth level.

Simple fact is Ange prefers that and seeing that none of these coaches are experts in sports science or fitness. Maybe just maybe that, the tactics we play and the fact we cannot rotate is feeding into an ever bigger injury crisis.

To absolve Ange of all blame is stupid and short sighted.

Dont'worry so much- there is nothing that can be done about it anyways.

Ange out crew will just need to be patient while everyone slowly figures out Ange isn't that great of a coach (or not). They'll have to hope that we are in a salvageable position by the time Ange is eventually sacked (or not).

Who knows? We may even win a couple games and slide safely into 10th place or so. Ange may even be retained despite our worst league finish since before the Ramos era.

What a time to be alive.
 
I mean, there are people who genuinely believe that managers of clubs like Bournemouth, Fulham, Brighton, Brentford would prefer staying where they are to coming here. Whether it's because they strongly overestimate how appealing other clubs are, or strongly underestimate how appealing this club can be, or a combination of both, they're very pessimistic about the type of managers we can attract.

Despite some valid complaints about our general level of spending, we still spend a fortune compared to the overwhelming majority of the clubs. We occasionally have to sell our best players, but then how many clubs are actually immune to that? In fact some, such as Ajax and Dortmund, take pride in their ability to do just that. I can't imagine them having lower turnover rates than us.

Despite another common complaint that Levy is an especially trigger-happy chairman, we're somewhere in the middle in terms of how often we change managers. Even if this wasn't the case, it still wouldn't be a deal breaker for most. Pretty much any manager gets the sack at some point in his career, it hardly damages one's reputation beyond repair. Average lifespan of a manager is around 18-24 months these days, there's nothing exceptional in terms of how we operate.

No matter how you look at it, this notion that no self-respecting manager would work with Levy/ENIC under any circumstances is not grounded in reality. In fact, majority of them would love to.
 
The lack of transfer activity just proves that the club and Levy have lost all faith in Ange. They aren't even giving him a chance to turn it around so you'd wonder why they have not just pulled the trigger and sacked him already? I thought the idea of giving Ange until May was you back him in January and atleast give him a fighter's chance of turning it around?

We are in the trenches now. Club is a total mess with no plan. They clearly already have their mind made up to sack Ange but are just delaying the inevitable and have no interest in supporting him in the meantime. It leaves us in the worst possible scenario where this horrific run of form just continues.

Either back him or sack him!!!! Make your mind up!!
 
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