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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
They’re not sticking with him because they want to, it’s because they have to. With the power struggle at the top no one is willing to pay the money to sack him, plus hire another who will be gone in the summer anyway. It’s a mess and it’s not clearing up anytime soon.
This. As negligent though they are and as useless as they are i fail to believe anyone is looking at this useless oaf of a manager and thinking 'yep, this is the guy to lead us forward'. As usual at Tottenham its about money and politics and stuff the football side of things
 
It’s a bit mad isn’t it. All this power I have in my fingers (I’ve often been complimented on my fingering, but not in this way) and my iPhone. From 500 miles away. With a few keystrokes, I can make our side lose matches.

I’m not sure how I’m doing it, but I need to find out how this superpower works. Would be nice so I could reverse it and we could maybe win one or two.

If we do, you’re all welcome. It won’t be an uplift in form, new manager bounce, good luck or any of that bollocks, it’ll be me and my magic fingers.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THOSE PESKY ANGE INNERS WE'D BE SITTING TOP OF THE LEAGUE BY NOW!!!!
 
What power struggle at the top ?
There's a rumour going around (coming from among others George Barrister, who used to pilot the club plane among others) that Lewis wants to sell, but Levy wants to remain on. So there's a process going on in the boardroom of Levy trying to put together a group to buy Lewis out. At least in part.

Could be in reference to that.
 
So many of you set yourselves up for disappointment last night based on the most Spurious ITK ever.

I’m genuinely confused now though. Levy of old would’ve sacked him a month ago. If they stick with him, get him a (good) player, and we somehow come out the other side of this, I’ll have to admit the club (and Levy) will have changed some of my opinions of them.

I get that 90% of this forum have already decided it’s not possible for Ange to come out the other side of this and I’m not going to try and persuade anyone otherwise. That’s on Ange and the team to do that, not me.

Edit: Shoutout Ali Gold btw. That was a very well-written piece that covered the whole deal very well in very few words
Hummmm...they could sign us Mbappe and he takes us to 12 wins out the last 15, seeing us get say P6 plus a trophy...and still I wouldn't change my mind on Levy & his cronies. They're gangsters. They're robbing the club (so us fans) blind. They give zero shit about football, the Spurs family or the community. That's been the case for 25 friggin years. That's how we are on the verge of relegation now...a club mocked by the entire football world, a true laughing stock setting ridiculous world's firsts one after the other.

They don't deserve a get out of jail card. Fuck them. And fuck them again. Those who defend them now or in the future too.
 
Hummmm...they could sign us Mbappe and he takes us to 12 wins out the last 15, seeing us get say P6 plus a trophy...and still I wouldn't change my mind on Levy & his cronies. They're gangsters. They're robbing the club (so us fans) blind. They give zero shit about football, the Spurs family or the community. That's been the case for 25 friggin years. That's how we are on the verge of relegation now...a club mocked by the entire football world, a true laughing stock setting ridiculous world's firsts one after the other.

They don't deserve a get out of jail card. Fuck them. And fuck them again. Those who defend them now or in the future too.

Winning is winning for me.

You stick to your guns and you win, you earned the credit for it.

Does it change the rest of the shit they do? No but that’s a separate issue imo.
 
Absurd. Yep.

If this turns out to be true we deserve to get relegated.

We have used 28 players this season in the PL. even if we sign 5 more I can just see 5 more injuries.

Yesterday sums it up. Richerlison coming back from injury. Clearly fatigued. The answer. Just give him 10 more minutes. What the worst that can happen?

Lankshear instead now has played 10 minutes in total this season in the PL!! 10! When the squad is totally fucked!!

If he was never good enough to play this season why have him as back up??? Just loan him out and get a youngster in we do trust to play.

Levy has turned into some mad gambling bastard.
Troy would've been a lot more use than Lankshear...or Richarlison.
 
get paid millions of pounds when you're 60 and not have to work again? What a tough situation? Maybe the club doesn't want to pay the full amount if there are clauses/performance conditions like cup results in there? Are they placing this on the Chief Football Officer? Cannot believe they bought into this. Would they need to totally clear the decks including coach appointments? Chris Davies did well?
 
I remember last season, it was “just wait for our players to return from injury and we’ll be fine”. They returned and we were still shit. It’ll be the same this season. Ange needs to fucking go
 
My theory is that levy wants to lower the expectations of the supporters because its cheaper / more Profit.
Sitting in midtable maybe a cuprun.
low wages expensive tickets pl tv money etc

After this season we will be grateful for a cuprun or to qualify for EL
It doesnt make financial sense for him to upgrade the squad pay higher wages and gamble on CL qualification or trophies

So its either just incompetence or / and he uses this ange saga to lower our expectations.
Spot on, my man.

That way next season when he ups the wage to turnover ratio to 45% and we finish say 8th, he knows full well his army of Shadies and Paris bots will be out there shouting how he's learned from his mistakes and now doing what needs to be done, we're acting like a big club, progressing in the table etc etc.

Levy is like them con discounts...jumper costs 100 quid, a week before the sales start the shop bumps it to 120, then brings the price back down to the original 100...but the big tag claims you're getting 20 quid off...bargain!!!
 
It makes one wonder why Levy & Lewis insist on keeping Angelos – who’s coached Spurs to the lowest point tally since 1912 and the highest injury causalities ever (?) – when they recently fired the following:

Pochettino was fired after years of overachieving years and went 3 transfer windows without signing a single player. Even reaching a first ever CL final for Spurs a few months before he was fired
Mourinho was fired with the team in 7th, and with a League Cup final less than a week away.
Nuno, whose Forest side currently sit at 3rd places, was fired in 8th.
Antonio Conte was actually 4th at his time of sacking.
Besides, Arne Slot was not hired (he dodged a bullet) because he wanted assurances and L & L refused to pay his buy-out fee.

My theory is that while the other head-coaches did not keep quiet about L & L ....Angelos does not speak out...
The day the fat bastard gets sacked will be a great day...cause I won't have to read your Angelos left, right & centre no more
 
lol told you he wasn't getting the sack. Every week people are like, that's it he's gone.
no chance, this is Levy's and Munns guy! They're gonna give him every possible opportunity to turn it around
:ange-arms:
 
So if reports are to be believed, we're doubling down on a manager, playing a system which isn't working (and hasn't done for quite some time). We're not going to give him the resources he wants to make that system work, and just roll the dice and see what happens?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
 
Spence wasn’t banished for half a season. At least attempt to deal in facts. Spence was given a chance to earn a spot in the squad after years of not clicking with several managers in several clubs. He was the first defensive sub Ange made in the season, he also came off the bench against Coventry. Then he got injured. I’d say there was 1 maybe 2 games after that injury where I was thinking he probably could’ve got a chance. I think Ange was asked in one press conference then a game later he was playing.

Your last paragraph is waffle mate. You are just refusing to acknowledge that the club knew how he played football when they hired him and brought him to the club to do that. You really think Ange as stubborn as he is was ever in an interview saying that his philosophy was going to change?

Oh. Facts?
You like... are willing to talk facts?
Sure you are not mixing them up with your garbage that you try to serve as facts ?

Cause when we talk REAL LIFE FACTS in a timeline.
Spence got real meaningful amount of minutes on 18th September against Coventry. Literally helped to save the day with scoring equalizer.
Then rooted back to the bench, despite constant poor performances by Udogie.
Then on 29th September Ange was forced to throw him in for 2nd half vs ManU. Did well again, helped to keep clean sheet.
And then - rooted back to the bench he was. Transfermarkt lists him injured for round 9th and 10th and "not in squad" for 8th round too. So OK - lets assume 8th was also due to injury. But from 11th round he was factually on the bench.

But when did he got another chance? in 16th round!
So in first 15 rounds (40% of EPL season) he was available and ready to start at least 12 (!).
Possible 1350 minutes. He was actually given 64. So 4,7% (!!!) of playing time there.

ALL WHILE UDOGIE WAS DOING POORLY.
That is fucking definition of being banished. FOUR point fucking SEVEN percent of playing time when starter in his position was doing poorly. Facts.
 
Text exchanges between Ange & Levy...

Jan 1st

Ange: "Hi Daniel, hope you're well, mate. Listen, could really do with a LCB, LB, winger and CF. Possibly a CM too."

Levy: "No problem, I'll get Johan on it right away. COYS, Daniel. "

Jan 5th

Levy: "Got some great news for you, Ange...Johan's got you a backup keeper from Czech Republic. Only 21, plenty potential!!! COYS, Daniel."

Ange: "Yeah nice one, I'll have him. How about those key positions I highlighted, though?"

Jan 8th

Ange: "Hi Daniel. Any news?"

Jan 12th

Ange: "Hi Daniel. Just checking you got my text last week? Couple more lads got injured, really need reinforcements. Please let me know."

Jan 17th

Ange: "Sorry to pester you, Mr Chairman, but we're getting pretty desperate over here..."

Jan 27th

Ange: "Hi all, apologies for the group message but I can't seem to get a hold of Daniel and when I went up to his office this morning, his secretary had security escort me back down. Obviously a misunderstanding. What is happening with transfers? Anyone coming through the door today or tomorrow?"

Daniel Levy has left the chat.

Donna Cullen has left the chat.

Scott Munn doesn't know how to turn his phone on.

Johan Lange can't find his phone in the dark.

Gareth Southgate has waved at you.

Feb 4th

Levy: "Sorry Ange, was in the shower. COYS, Daniel."
 
lol told you he wasn't getting the sack. Every week people are like, that's it he's gone.
no chance, this is Levy's and Munns guy! They're gonna give him every possible opportunity to turn it around
:ange-arms:
He's had every possible opportunity to turn it around and he's proved he is fucking useless. The only thing he excels at is trying to front out fans.

If they honestly thought he was their guy they'd have backed him more in the summer and this window.
 
Oh. Facts?
You like... are willing to talk facts?
Sure you are not mixing them up with your garbage that you try to serve as facts ?

Cause when we talk REAL LIFE FACTS in a timeline.
Spence got real meaningful amount of minutes on 18th September against Coventry. Literally helped to save the day with scoring equalizer.
Then rooted back to the bench, despite constant poor performances by Udogie.
Then on 29th September Ange was forced to throw him in for 2nd half vs ManU. Did well again, helped to keep clean sheet.
And then - rooted back to the bench he was. Transfermarkt lists him injured for round 9th and 10th and "not in squad" for 8th round too. So OK - lets assume 8th was also due to injury. But from 11th round he was factually on the bench.

But when did he got another chance? in 16th round!
So in first 15 rounds (40% of EPL season) he was available and ready to start at least 12 (!).
Possible 1350 minutes. He was actually given 64. So 4,7% (!!!) of playing time there.

ALL WHILE UDOGIE WAS DOING POORLY.
That is fucking definition of being banished. FOUR point fucking SEVEN percent of playing time when starter in his position was doing poorly. Facts.

Udogie is the starting LB, Spence is the second back up RB. How many minutes was he expected to get?

You know he was out of the club last season and the season before under Conte?

Give it a rest mate, you are making a tit of yourself.

I can give Ange stick for the decision not to take VDV off earlier vs Chelsea. I can give him stick for starting Sarr instead of Reguillon vs Leicester. I can give him stick for reacting to fans when he should suck it up..,

But Spence? That’s irrational nonsense you’ve talked yourself into and now got married to. Ange is the first manager since Steve Cooper at Forest to get Spence into a meaningful role. They clearly have an understanding that is enabling him to show who he can be as a player. It’s one of Ange’s very few success stories so far this season.
 
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