The worst thing is if Ange does get us relegated there will be a big section of fans saying we should stick with him so he can get us promoted .........
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I have no idea what I wanted to happen with Juande Ramos. Do you?
I've come to the point where if it's gonna get done, please just do it quickly. Like what I came to realise last week when surgery will be the best fix if it doesn't heal on it's own.
Even the moron Keown on TalkSPORT now is talking through how our tactics are terrible and his beliefs are flawed. He’s so biased against us normally but you can even hear the frustration in his voice about how bad we are set up.
Thought he did a good job last season under the circumstances, finishing 5th was a good season compared to this one... funny how things in football change.
Earnt the right to take us into this season and I did think we were unlucky in alot of the games near the start of the season, however recently it's got worse. Same problems, same easy goals being conceded every week.
That isn't a bad set of players, Porro for example isn't a bad player but the tactics are killing us now. Every single match Porro is getting caught up the pitch and teams are getting down his side.
It's kamikaze football which if it continues will get us relegated. Even when we get players back, you know full well there will be more injuries. You only have to look at Richy, back for half a game and he's already done his groin, he'll probs be out for 2 years now.
Simple way to look if we can't take a point off either Everton or Leicester, we are fucked. Looked how Moyes has made a dog shit Everton side win 2 games on the bounce.
Earnt the right to take us into this season and I did think we were unlucky in alot of the games near the start of the season, however recently it's got worse. Same problems, same easy goals being conceded every week.
That isn't a bad set of players, Porro for example isn't a bad player but the tactics are killing us now. Every single match Porro is getting caught up the pitch and teams are getting down his side.
It's kamikaze football which if it continues will get us relegated. Even when we get players back, you know full well there will be more injuries. You only have to look at Richy, back for half a game and he's already done his groin, he'll probs be out for 2 years now.
Simple way to look if we can't take a point off either Everton or Leicester, we are fucked. Looked how Moyes has made a dog shit Everton side win 2 games on the bounce.
He cannot organise a team. I assume where ever he has been he has his Assistants do the majority of the lifting when it comes to coaching and we have given him Bert and Earnie to coach his player and talk about team shape.
Ange is just there to tell everyone a bed time story about his relationship with his father.
I posted a few pages back about injuries and injury reports coming out from Celtic during his time there…it’s all very predictable, the difference being you can get away with it in the SPL, although even Celtic were getting concerned
...and to think people used to deride Harry as having no tactics and telling the players to "f*cking run around a bit."
Ange isnt anywhere near Harry's level - could you ever see him taking this team to the San Siro (or similar) and getting a 1-0 away win in a champions league game like Redknapp did?
One thing that Redknapp did well when he took over from the mess Ramos made was to get back to basics - simple system, put players in their right positions and identify the gaps for improvement (e.g. bringing in Palacios as a DM).
Angeball is pure chaos - I've never seen a team so wide open at this level of football and dont get me started on the bizarre selection of players in certain positions and the ridiculous lack of game management.
nothing new or unique to Ange, we always underpay when it comes to wages. every manager is frustrated with getting a lesser player because we wont pay up
I don't disagree with any of that. I just don't agree he's been backed to a serious degree.
He's been backed for a midtable finish, and yes he's underperforming on that metric. But he's not been backed to challenge for anything. And neither was Conte, Nuno or Jose.
I think he wouldn't even mind to come in as an interim.
Then imagine he actually won the League Cup and Europa with us. Lol. Instant legend with contract extension.
I know and I agree fully.
could offer him a 6 month deal, would he turn it down when he's out of work? he goes on to win a cup and it will be made permanent
tbh i dont think Terzic would do much better
Almost a bigger worry for me than relegation right now, how much of the damage that he's doing is irrepairable?
Physically some of them may be permanently reduced by his time here, and the next manager will also have a job on to get them to un-learn the batshit tactics they've had hammered into them.
They're generally young lads too, this isn't a year and a half/2 years of stagnation, it's active regression, at a key stage of their development.
Someone else pointed out the other day, and I've said similar previously, the players that look best for us are the ones that have had least time with Ange. The whole team looked best under him before he'd had any real amount of time with the group!
We ought to stop looking for a perfect option amongst the available alternatives, the current task isn't getting us back on course for CL as soon as possible, it's a fucking salvage job, and the longer we allow this incompetent to carry on his demolition job, the bigger the ask of the next guy becomes.
Talk about throwing the season away..... I knew 100% at Galatasaray he was out of depth and he should have been sacked after Ipswich game.
Keeping him now makes no sense whatsoever.
Our midfield gets ran through consistently when we get turned over cos our 8 and 10 push up so high leaving the 6 so much ground to cover and always a huge decision to make that if he gets it wrong opposition usually punishes us....it's mental. Look at the 2nd goal, Sarr is basically a CF has to sprint all the way back seconds after he sprinted up the pitch to be there. Happens all the time...and we wonder why we can't keep the ball.
Look how many times he hooked both midfielders at half time last season.... happened to Bissouma, Bentancur, PEH, Sarr, Skipp, Maddison... every single midfielder at the club.
This geezer is killing us.
It’s the only thing that makes the remotest bit of sense to me.
A clause for a lower payoff that hasn’t been hit yet or investment/sale of the club, something like that.
Not saying that it has to be Benitez, but we need some pragmatism.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qypC5hREHbs
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qypC5hREHbs
Sorry Brentford
I'll be amazed if we win another league game this season.
I HATE Levy. Hate him worse than having a tube shoved down me knob when I was getting kidney stones sorted.
I don't hate Ange. I want him gone because he's in over his head and shite, but I do feel somewhat sorry for him too. Hung out to dry by the bald lizard, and completely fucked over.