Atleast them managers were keeping our head above the water.
This guy is tying us to an anchor
and dropping it in the ocean
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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This guy is tying us to an anchor
and dropping it in the oceanWay we are playing anything less than a 6 nil demolition is like saying I miss my mate Jimmy Saville at the audition
End of the day, if you are right and we crash out both cups next week then Ange will be gone.
If we get through Liverpool and Villa with 2 wins, there's no way we stay in a relegation battle with that kind of momentum behind us.
Either way, may as well see where we end up.
We were discussing Werner. Each case is to be handled individually. Anything else is just weak whataboutery.
Because they're offering it from their perspective as ex-players. They haven't played in the mens game, so what are they talking about? What is their experience?
They play in a league of copycat teams with none of the history or rivalries that the mens teams have had for 100+ years.
That's not to say i think mn know what they're talking about. Most of them are dumb asses too. But at least idiots like O'Hara has actually played for THFC mens team - DURING Levy's tenure. His insight is worth infinitely more than some northern woman who doesn't play the same sport.
There are women (and men) who have never played the game who offer far more from a punditry perspective. Non bias, analytical, fact based and well presented. These are the people that need to be elevated in this area. Not any old ex player who kicked a ball wearing a shirt of a PL team.
There are vacancies in the Spurs medical department, but you sure as hell won’t have time to read 15 pages on hereJesus Christ! 15 new pages since I last refreshed this thread 2 hours ago. What jobs do you all do and are there any vacancies??
I thought there had been an announcement
Werner was our best winger in 3/4 of his prem starts.
In Ange Postecoglou system Werner and Mikey Moore are the best suited to his system, odobert hasn't played enough to be part of the conversation.
Werner is the least of our problems and Postecoglou tried to make him his biggest problem. Yet when he don't play we are just as shit or arguably worse.
Great post
It’s a very mixed record, even financially, when one considers the underlying driver of his asset appreciation, which is the massive growth in the franchise value of elite football clubs
So women are ok....?
And the PL vs often better opponents than us, and at a faster game pace, will likely exacerbate it vs Celtic
Large breasts are essential.
I think he’s taken a blow or several from a certain Antipodean!
That's the spirit.
I do note we have beaten Man U home and away this season scoring 7 goals in the process.
People that follow him are typically also 'fanalysts', so no purple and gold types. It's like doing a general election poll in Surrey. I bet if the Last Word on Spurs podcast did a poll it would be the other way around.
In one aspect, I'm starting to feel a little bad for Ange.
If Levy had sacked him when he should have been sacked, after Ipswich, I would have thought "well there goes a man who flew too close to the sun. A victim of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his capabilities, but he had an idea and he sure gave it a go."
By keeping him this long and letting him utterly destroy our season, our squad, and create financial repercussions that we will be dealing with for years after he is gone, any vestiges of good will are gone. He's the worst manager we have had in the past quarter century plus, and we'll be dealing with the fallout of this disaster for years.
He doesn't deserve the Judas treatment, and I don't blame him for not quitting, I wouldn't either, but I can't think of anyone other than Judas associated with the club in the past 25 years I'd be less likely to give a hand shake.
If Levy had sacked him when he should have been sacked, after Ipswich, I would have thought "well there goes a man who flew too close to the sun. A victim of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his capabilities, but he had an idea and he sure gave it a go."
By keeping him this long and letting him utterly destroy our season, our squad, and create financial repercussions that we will be dealing with for years after he is gone, any vestiges of good will are gone. He's the worst manager we have had in the past quarter century plus, and we'll be dealing with the fallout of this disaster for years.
He doesn't deserve the Judas treatment, and I don't blame him for not quitting, I wouldn't either, but I can't think of anyone other than Judas associated with the club in the past 25 years I'd be less likely to give a hand shake.
Agree with all that apart from feeling bad for him.
If he had a bit more class then yes but this bollocks with him trying to stare down fans and his general arrogance and clear annoyance at being questioned on anything then i think he deserves the ire and contempt.
Agreed. I'd add that him staying isn't doing him any favours either as each game just shines more light on the numerous flaws in his approach.
He doesn't deserve hate but he doesn't deserve support either.
How you work that one out?
The minutes and experience that Gray and Bergvall have got ahead of schedule will benefit us for years. Spence just gave us a home grown option for RB, LB and CB for years, from nowhere, the kid was out of the club.
Solanke is one of the best forwards we have ever signed under Levy. Odobert will probably end up coming good, probably by the end of the season. Mikey Moore has minutes under his belt.
Sure, its a but rough right now but the foundations put underneath this squad were forged in the toughest of times and if anything will serve us incredibly for years.
Ange, when asked if
If they let Ange go quite a bit after the should of been released, the fans will by then of developed a serious amount of frustatrion and loathing for the manager, and so all the anger will mostly be channeled at him instead. The fans will be relieved that Levy had finally got rid, so relief (rather than anger) will become the most dominant emotion amongst the fan base.
You've raised an interesting and valid point and I can see now exactly why Levy would hold onto this guy until fans are frothing at the bit. If you let him go at the right time, then as you say, there will relief but a somewhat friendly departure between the two parties. But the higher ups will get it in the neck and then some for hiring a manager way out of his depth.
If they let Ange go quite a bit after the should of been released, the fans will by then of developed a serious amount of frustatrion and loathing for the manager, and so all the anger will mostly be channeled at him instead. The fans will be relieved that Levy had finally got rid, so relief (rather than anger) will become the most dominant emotion amongst the fan base.