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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Skippa18 said:
Werner was our best winger in 3/4 of his prem starts.

In Ange Postecoglou system Werner and Mikey Moore are the best suited to his system, odobert hasn't played enough to be part of the conversation.

Werner is the least of our problems and Postecoglou tried to make him his biggest problem. Yet when he don't play we are just as shit or arguably worse.
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Werner is awful. Can't control a pass, can't finish to save his life. Doesn't really press that much and when he does, he's soft.
His one skill is clipping it to the byline and crossing it low. Good for Ange's system but saying he's our best winger after Moore is mental.
 
I would keep Ange now but if a good manager is poachable for next year - I’d do it. Iraola a dream.

However if we win a cup and the form recovers once injuries are back, then I’m as fickle as the next fan. Signed for a project, keep backing him and the team.
 
Richard Arlison said:

View: https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1883879477878693916

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(this one is a troll but some of you will bite anyway. Anyone fancy a side bet on who? dms are open)
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Kane's left said:
Ange, when asked if

You've raised an interesting and valid point and I can see now exactly why Levy would hold onto this guy until fans are frothing at the bit. If you let him go at the right time, then as you say, there will relief but a somewhat friendly departure between the two parties. But the higher ups will get it in the neck and then some for hiring a manager way out of his depth.

If they let Ange go quite a bit after the should of been released, the fans will by then of developed a serious amount of frustatrion and loathing for the manager, and so all the anger will mostly be channeled at him instead. The fans will be relieved that Levy had finally got rid, so relief (rather than anger) will become the most dominant emotion amongst the fan base.
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I don't think Levy makes a single decision with concern of what supporters think. I think we wish he would, so many project that onto him and think his decisions are Machiavellian schemes to keep supporters onside and paying for tickets. The man isn't vain like Sugar, he doesn't give a fuck what supporters think.

I think he's held onto Ange so long largely because Nuno has Forest humming and he probably regrets taking Conte's bait and dismissing Nuno so quickly, and believes that was a mistake. I think he figured that, rather than let Ange go so quickly he'd give him some time to prove he could turn it around. We got stuck in this good-bad-good-bad-bad-good-bad results cycle and Levy couldn't make his mind up to take action. Then the clock struck January and January is just a terrible time to sack a manager, particularly if you need players.

Further, now that we've got a lead in the LC Semifinal he's being haunted by the 2nd ghost of sackings past - sacking Mourinho before the LC final.

So I don't think it's a Machiavellian scheme to redirect supporters' anger, it's just the same incompetent lack of conviction and timing we've seen from him in the past. These are the decisions he struggles with, the tasks that he does not handle well. He's indecisive in general, and when he's decisive about football matters he's usually been wrong. Which is a negative feedback loop and just makes him more indecisive.
 
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MemphisWill said:
In one aspect, I'm starting to feel a little bad for Ange.

If Levy had sacked him when he should have been sacked, after Ipswich, I would have thought "well there goes a man who flew too close to the sun. A victim of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his capabilities, but he had an idea and he sure gave it a go."

By keeping him this long and letting him utterly destroy our season, our squad, and create financial repercussions that we will be dealing with for years after he is gone, any vestiges of good will are gone. He's the worst manager we have had in the past quarter century plus, and we'll be dealing with the fallout of this disaster for years.

He doesn't deserve the Judas treatment, and I don't blame him for not quitting, I wouldn't either, but I can't think of anyone other than Judas associated with the club in the past 25 years I'd be less likely to give a hand shake.
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He's been a disaster all told, but there is a sizable chunk of the fanbase that are still very fond of [the idea of] Ange and will be sad when he's sacked.

If anything I'd say sacking him will just turn more hatred on Levy, which is probably the main reason he's still here.
 
Matt1882 said:
I'm genuinely mulling over giving up my season ticket but telling the wife I still have it.
I could just sit in the car for 6 hours on a match day to get some "me time"
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Take up golf, I always presumed it was an old man sport and a load of shite but I bloody love it now, often play by myself aswell and it’s glorious just being alone for 3/4 hours

Much more enjoyable than going to football for me nowadays
 
Richard Arlison said:
How you work that one out?

The minutes and experience that Gray and Bergvall have got ahead of schedule will benefit us for years. Spence just gave us a home grown option for RB, LB and CB for years, from nowhere, the kid was out of the club.

Solanke is one of the best forwards we have ever signed under Levy. Odobert will probably end up coming good, probably by the end of the season. Mikey Moore has minutes under his belt.

Sure, its a but rough right now but the foundations put underneath this squad were forged in the toughest of times and if anything will serve us incredibly for years.
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Financially we will be hamstrung (pun intended) by this era for years beyond this one. The last accounts we published included a record breaking loss for the club. The next accounts, covering 23-24 with no Europe will break that record. The accounts after that, with only EL revenue and likely finishing below 12th, will be close to a record breaking financial loss. The accounts after that, covering 25-26 with mo European competition revenue will likely set a new record financial loss.

At one time we had a lot of PSR runway. We've fucked that, and done it without overspending like Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa, Everton, etc. We're going to be making decisions on players based as much on PSR as squad needs soon, and it's going to be down to how disastrous the past 18 months have been.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
I’m not sure he is as astute as people say he is.

Overcooked naming rights deal, those deals no longer in vogue
Stadium late ( happens)
Stadium massively over budget ( happens but this is area of supposed expertise)
Not being willing to spend to consolidate top 4 when very much in pole position
Has spent god knows how much in poaching managers
Spent a lot more in comp for sacking managers
Same story on poaching and firing DOFs
For every Bale , Brebatov and Modric there are way more NDombele, Lo Celso and Bentleys
175k a week for Werner (twice just lol)
If we finish 15th instead of 5th that’s 31 million loss on Prem money alone ( excl loss of CL )

He has bled the fans dry to enrich himself and the odious Lewis admittedly , not genius or clever just cynical and greedy

Well that is my opinion of his business acumen at least .
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He's a cunt
 
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