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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Is this true?? Didn't see anything after the game.
If it is thats pretty admirable from Lucas and awful from Bentancur.
Someone (who was also there) mentioned it on the pod as well this lunchtime....

Not a great look, is it Roddy...?

Especially after all the support you got from the fans after the....
Y'know... 'Summer incident' :sonhmm:
 
When there's been nothing but a clear downward trajectory, they shouldn't even get 18 months.

Football is big business, any other manager leading a business to failure would be long gone.
I agree. Quite often you can tell pretty early. Santini for example or De Boer at Palace. But i always think you get a very good idea after 16/18 months. Are individual players improving, do the team look organised, have they become difficult to beat. Its always pretty clear at that stage.
 
The only good thing that came out of last night was talking to a fellow sufferer who feels exactly the same as me about this Club, but wish we didn't. The reminiscing of watching us in the 80s was off the scale.
The ones I feel for are the supporters who do the away league games as well. As disappointing as yesterday was (and Sunday will likely be), I'm not putting myself through it every week.
Aaaah - the ‘80s…that’s more like it! Here we go…:ossie:
 
When there's been nothing but a clear downward trajectory, they shouldn't even get 18 months.

Football is big business, any other manager leading a business to failure would be long gone.

Yeah, and you can't really compare it to Arteta who was on the verge of being sacked at one point but most people could see that there was progress being made. Or Howe, who was under pressure but really only for 2-3 months of average to poor performances.

We've been bad for a year - probably slightly more than a year now. Yes, there's been some lovely goals and moments where you think maybe a corner has been turned, but they don't last. The form guide says 'relegation' even if the goal difference says 'top 6-8'.
 
With the benefit of hindsight it was a pretty naive appointment.

For me the fact he didn’t bring any coaches with him should have rang very loud alarm bells.

All the best coaches have usually assembled a very close knit team that coach various different aspects of the playing setup and have come together over a long period.

It now seems extremely bizarre that Ange doesn’t have such a team of assistant coaches, especially when it seems he relies on his team extensively to manage the day to day coaching.
 
With the benefit of hindsight it was a pretty naive appointment.

For me the fact he didn’t bring any coaches with him should have rang very loud alarm bells.

All the best coaches have usually assembled a very close knit team that coach various different aspects of the playing setup and have come together over a long period.

It now seems extremely bizarre that Ange doesn’t have such a team of assistant coaches, especially when it seems he relies on his team extensively to manage the day to day coaching.

Yeah but;

If Ange had bought more assistants, like Conte did, the chairman would have had to pay all of them off too when the time came.

Where would the money for the chairman's salary and bonus come from then?

It was the right thing to do I reckon.

At least Spurs wont be doing a Leeds.

Wait.....
 
Yeah but;

If Ange had bought more assistants, like Conte did, the chairman would have had to pay all of them off too when the time came.

Where would the money for the chairman's salary and bonus come from then?

It was the right thing to do I reckon.

At least Spurs wont be doing a Leeds.

Wait.....
The existing incumbents didn’t come for free! 😂

They’re not FOC interns (even though their performance may reflect that)!
 
It’s hard to say, Levy seems to have gone soft in the head. He has never been this accepting of shit results before.
I think Levy's biggest issue is trying to convince anyone decent to take over this shit show mid season.
There are managers we could get now but long term they're most likely not a solution.
His other issue is that this next appointment HAS to be the right one. No big money, big names just for show. No cheap hires that might work....he has to do his homework and get it right.
His next meeting with the THST will be a bloodbath otherwise.

As stated in other sources, appointing Ryan Mason again would be highly embarrassing for him, basically an admission that he's screwed up once again.

I honestly think that unless we move dangerously close to relegation, we'll be stuck with Ange until the end of the season.
 
Ange will only get fired when it helps Levy's wallet - he will do a Termination Risk Assessment it will come down to 1 factor...MONEY

If it's cheaper to let him go now or later. That's the only factor in Levy's decision process.
 
Yeah, and you can't really compare it to Arteta who was on the verge of being sacked at one point but most people could see that there was progress being made. Or Howe, who was under pressure but really only for 2-3 months of average to poor performances.

We've been bad for a year - probably slightly more than a year now. Yes, there's been some lovely goals and moments where you think maybe a corner has been turned, but they don't last. The form guide says 'relegation' even if the goal difference says 'top 6-8'.
He was on the verge of being sacked yet took over a team 11th and finished 8th.
The next season they had a bad start and that's when the noise started. They were 14th in the league and lost 9 out of 14 games. Thing is, those were the first 14 games. They were 14th in December and there was noise about sacking him! We're down there in February and there's less noise.
But they still finished 8th again. So still no overall deterioration.
3rd season - 5th with another bad start but clear improvement
4th season 2nd
5th season 2nd with more points than season 4

There's nothing hidden here. All that is taken straight from their Wiki page where you can see every result, league position as the season plays out etc, same as out.
At no point other than early in season 2 have Arse gotten worse and carried on getting worse.

Ange, mate, took over a team that under Conte finished 4th and was 3rd when Conte was sacked and Ange, mate, finished 5th. And we have been descending down the the table at an alarming rate ever since.
 
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