Wanting better than 20 defeats in our last 38 league games, god we're so demanding.
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Mick, it’s a daft, over the top article that is appealing to emotion rather than common sense.
No one is criticising the youngsters or faulting the effort and application of the players. This is a strawman, largely fabricated by Ange, to deflect from seeing his time at Spurs in the whole. He wants us to focus on the trees and miss the woods.
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Excellent post.
Not only is Ange able to hoodwink gullible kids into signing for us and making them believe its the best option but he's absolutely done a number on our fanbase (and our chairman by the looks of things).
The media generally speaking are the only entity that are absolutely not fooled anymore.
So a manager who isn’t tied up in a contract past this season or a manager of a club who gets relegated.
I don't know why a portion of this fanbase keeps getting worked up over the possibility of managerial change. It's routine stuff, in fact clubs that football fans often envy in terms of how well run they are don't hesitate to pull the plug on their freshly appointed managers all the time. This season alone;
Dortmund sacked Sahin,a longtime former player of theirs mind you, after 6.5 months.
Milan sacked Fonseca, who had replaced their former title winning manager Pioli during the summer, after 6 months.
Roma sacked club legend De Rossi after 8 months, replaced with him Juric, and sacked him after 2 months as well.
Feyenoord sacked Priske after over 7 months.
Managerial change is not inherently destabilizing. Nor is there an arbitrary length of time, measured in years, a manager is owed before he can justifiably be sacked. It's a moot point in the context of this debate anyway, as Ange is already given more than enough time to show his worth.
Dortmund sacked Sahin,a longtime former player of theirs mind you, after 6.5 months.
Milan sacked Fonseca, who had replaced their former title winning manager Pioli during the summer, after 6 months.
Roma sacked club legend De Rossi after 8 months, replaced with him Juric, and sacked him after 2 months as well.
Feyenoord sacked Priske after over 7 months.
Managerial change is not inherently destabilizing. Nor is there an arbitrary length of time, measured in years, a manager is owed before he can justifiably be sacked. It's a moot point in the context of this debate anyway, as Ange is already given more than enough time to show his worth.
The nature of the game is that it's a results-based industry. Any talk of 'projects', 'building' (etc.,) needs to deal with the reality, which is results. Lose too many games and you get sacked.
The only weird thing about this interpretation (with which I otherwise agree) is that I find this guy's PR shocking, the messaging is awful, right down to the ill-fitting suits and bizarre staring at the floor (what's all that about?) Could go on but I have work to do - sick of seeing a club I've thumped loads of time and money into still resembling amateur hour.
There's 2 separate arguments on the injuries.
1) Are they an excuse for poor form/results? - in many games, IMO, yes. Not so much against lower level teams though.
2) Are the injuries a direct result of the style of play of THFC. IMO, this is also a yes.
So you're then in to an endless loop.
Will we get better when we get players back? Yes.
Will we get those players back/for long? Probably not.
What is the solution?
Don't play the style of football that is quite literally injuring players.
Will Ange change it? No
Can Ange change i? Doubt it.
So there is surely only one solution. You get a coach who can nurse the players back to fitness until the end the season season to stabilize things and then start fresh in June.
blow in, blow out..bluff, bluster and take the money? Manage down, my doors always open, the usual bs . But while you're doing it dish out some advice on how you should support the club, provide some anecdotes, speeches , 'don't you say anything about my boys mate' .. and .......... 'I did it my way' . I get it, it's a retirement package?
what is weird is that people sing the manager songs. Pure cabaret. For someone with no connection to THFC, that is possibly a first?
what is weird is that people sing the manager songs. Pure cabaret. For someone with no connection to THFC, that is possibly a first?
Independent's version:
Do Tottenham really have the worst injury crisis in the Premier League?
Spurs manager Ange Postecoglou has repeatedly referred to the club’s injury crisis when defending his team’s results – so is it the worst in the Premier League?www.independent.co.uk
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Overall, it does appear that Spurs have had the worst injury problems in the league this season.
In addition to currently having 11 players out, the length of the different layoffs – and the importance of the various players – mean that Postecoglou probably does deserve some slack.
The starting centre-back pairing of Romero and van de Ven have been out since October, with the Argentine having foot and ankle problems and the Dutchman suffering hamstring issues. Both were rushed back for the December match against Chelsea, but neither finished the game and they’ve been suffering issues ever since.
Vicario has been out since the end of November, while another starting defender, Destiny Udogie, has been out since the end of 2024, and they are now lacking cover at centre-back after the injury to Dragusin.
In midfield, Rodrigo Bentancur missed two league matches through concussion, while Pape Sarr missed two matches this year with a knock and James Maddison has been out since the end of January.
Brennan Johnson has been out since mid-January with a calf strain, with Dominic Solanke suffering a knee injury around the same time.
Wilson Odobert has been out since September, while Richarlison has missed a total of 15 games in the league and was then forced off against Brentford last week. Finally, Werner has been out since the beginning of 2025.
You just post stuff. Without explaining what you try to prove.
So basically you are writing half a sentence.
I have not seen anyone questioning that we have a lot of injuries this season. An awful lot really. It is true and it is factual.
But question is - WHY do we have it?
And for me bigger question - why did we have massive injury crises and fatigue during last season, when we only played EPL (even dropped out of cups very early)? So in fact two seasons in row. Two seasons under same manager. That is making everyone running every second of every game...
No it wasn't!
Hearing someone speak the truth about our beloved club is refreshing! I laughed when i saw it.
For millionth of time - before ALL THOSE INJURIES HIT- WE WERE 10TH ON THE TABLE (!) having lost to Ipswich and Palace.
You have no leg to stand upon - we were shit in the very beginning of the season too.
Like we were at the end of last season with near full availability.
Kind of on the fence with the whole Ange thing, on one hand they are the third highest scoring team in the PL, but have conceded the 5th most in the league. At the beginning of the season first 8-9 games I actually thought they played the best football of all the teams just weren’t getting the results, super tight in the narrow losses but dominated possession. Then injuries set in 1,2,34,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 not just squad players either, 5 locked in starters and the rest very much part of the team. Now being forced to play literal kids, players out of position against seasoned pros at the top of the game every 3 days with no rest, IDGAF who you are, do that for 3 months straight and that shit takes its toll on your body which is very evident looking at their energy levels.
Ange in ange out doesn’t matter as long as there are that many players out not even Conte could help them win… ohh wait he flopped also
Ange in ange out doesn’t matter as long as there are that many players out not even Conte could help them win… ohh wait he flopped also
Radio silence on the club's twitter account for 36+ hours and the first post that they put out is a happy birthday Bryan Gil message
Nah , they are trolling us
View: https://x.com/SpursOfficial/status/1889242082457346342
Nah , they are trolling us
View: https://x.com/SpursOfficial/status/1889242082457346342
Well the turd claims players coming back over the next few weeks.
Hopefully they have learnt not to leave massive gaps in their time off.
Anyway you band of Happy Clappers we will see soon enough and if we lift the Europa and rise up the league then us antis will come here and doff our caps to you.
Hopefully they have learnt not to leave massive gaps in their time off.
Anyway you band of Happy Clappers we will see soon enough and if we lift the Europa and rise up the league then us antis will come here and doff our caps to you.
Us changing managers all the time are just sad, no more no less! And certainly nothing to celebrate.
Us changing managers as often as we have done, means we are doing something wrong as a club.
And a new manager means, a new system, new players, etc. It's starting all over again. We as a club has never had any time to settle, to grow a mentality,under Enics ownership.
So to celebrate another manager getting sacked, will be like celebrate when we lose, to celebrate another failure.
not true - before them we were 6th - 3 points off 3rd after beating City.
I thought I posted a whole article which included several paragraphs about Spurs?
There is definitely questions to be asked about the relationship between Ange’s methods and our injury clusterfuck.
A big club like Tottenham sitting just above the relegation Zone and watching the team make the same defensive mistakes every game is even more insane!