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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Deuterz said:
I’ll never understand the dumb fan obsession with hitting the woodwork and thinking that means you ‘should’ score.

The goalkeeper pulled off a couple of decent saves and yes, van de ven missed a good chance. For us to win 4 or 5-1 we would have been exceptionally clinical with what we actually created.
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3-1 would have been about right for last night.

Bergvall's effort to hit the post would have been a worldie so can't really count as "should have scored"

Bentancur's header was also a tough chance that he did well and got unlucky to hit the frame but not really "should have scored"

Between Son's chance that was saved and Brennan's chance that he skied, we really should have scored at least one and VDV's chance at the end was a miracle for Frankfurt that didn't go in.

Maddison's chance was a good one as well.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
This is an intresting bit of revisionism. Because I can name the very many people here who saw through his crap.
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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
He might do better than them but don't kid yourself some of us would do way better than this.
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I understand the sentiment, but I highly, highly doubt anyone on this forum has anywhere near what it takes to manage an EPL team, even if it's just to be better than Ange.
Remember if you're doing better than Ange, then you're doing better than Moyes and Potter, and as good as Amorim, all seasoned managers.

The pressure these managers work under is some of the toughest in the world outside of certain military roles.

Being able to analyse tactics with the benefit of hindsight and getting Stevenage Borough into the Champions League in FM2024 doesn't mean you'll do a better job than Ange!
 
Yes the job is Pressure (But not a worry about money) that's why you have a backup team of coaches etc to help, BUT if you don't use those folks its even more pressure ( and this guy clearly doesn't use the staff)
Surely Ange knows he can't make in game changes so get a coach that CAN and use him, BUT NO Ange is just too fixed in his way
 
Richard Arlison said:
3-1 would have been about right for last night.

Bergvall's effort to hit the post would have been a worldie so can't really count as "should have scored"

Bentancur's header was also a tough chance that he did well and got unlucky to hit the frame but not really "should have scored"

Between Son's chance that was saved and Brennan's chance that he skied, we really should have scored at least one and VDV's chance at the end was a miracle for Frankfurt that didn't go in.

Maddison's chance was a good one as well.
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agree, on another night son, vdv and Johnson bury those chances. should've been a 4-1 result. alas we will have to do it the hard way now.
Wonder how frankfurt will go about it next leg after that 45 min pounding, ange seemed to suggest they wont change their approach which i dont think is true
 
Richard Arlison said:
3-1 would have been about right for last night.

Bergvall's effort to hit the post would have been a worldie so can't really count as "should have scored"

Bentancur's header was also a tough chance that he did well and got unlucky to hit the frame but not really "should have scored"

Between Son's chance that was saved and Brennan's chance that he skied, we really should have scored at least one and VDV's chance at the end was a miracle for Frankfurt that didn't go in.

Maddison's chance was a good one as well.
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3 2 that 4 on 2 chance they fucked up was an easy chance
 
Kaz Hirai said:
agree, on another night son, vdv and Johnson bury those chances. should've been a 4-1 result. alas we will have to do it the hard way now.
Wonder how frankfurt will go about it next leg after that 45 min pounding, ange seemed to suggest they wont change their approach which i dont think is true
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They have been struggling at home and often do much better when they can sit in then hit on the counter.
 
Kiro Kompiro said:
To quote Mr Josep "Pep" Guardiola esq: "My job is to get you to the final third. Yours is to finish".

( and before anyone goes there, NO I was NOT comparing Guardiola with Postecoglou"..
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From post-match presser:

That's something we work on, getting into those areas in the box in terms of the half-spaces. Madders we know is really creative and obviously Dom was the one who received it, so there was a gap there at the near post. We've always said that we need the next person in line to attack that area and Pedro happened to be that and it was an outstanding finish. If you look at it, Brennan is where he's meant to be, at the far post if the ball goes through, and Lucas on the edge of the box. It was a well worked goal and I think one we deserved,

It seems that there is some coaching after all.
 
We are so far away from being a top club with the right mentality . Even if u look at PSG the other night , they wanted a 3rd and kept going for it , played a high press till the end . We needed to take a lead to Germany , did u see the players at the end , they looked like they had lost the tie , completely broken the lot of them . It’s such a weak football club from top to bottom , we played an average team last night in our biggest game of the season and I’d say we turned up for 35 minutes of it . When we had the momentum we needed to go for the jugular , that’s what top teams do , some fans are happy we ‘had a go’ second half .
 
...and what's the latest crap about the footballing gods not being on our side? When you start blaming God for your own mistakes you've really lost it maaaate.

GET RID NOW
 
Lancelot Link said:
Thought second half was very good with a shitload of chances. Not sure why people are flapping about tactics. A bit of luck and could have had 4-5 goals.
And yet here people crying in their basements and calling Ange names. Some ears deserve a cupping
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is it luck that Declan Rice has NEVER scored a direct free kick before, and then scores 2 in ten minutes when absolutely needed... or 'bad luck' that he's failed every single time before...?

erlee said:
WHY..
isn't BJ subbed
WHY
are the subs coming on with 10m left?
WHY
isn't Spence playing?
WHY
is the front 3 toothless?
WHY
are we still persisting in scoring goals inside that tiny box
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Altogether now.... "Delilah???"

bk_spur said:
What a whiner. “Woe is me”.
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It's who we are, mate! To be fair, the fans have been on that rant for years...
Pedro Mendes/Olt Trafford... Lasagnegate... Sissoko 'handball' CL Final.... Every decent thing we have being taken away from us...

"Ha, It's easy this way, no? This is ze story of Tottenham... For 20 years they won nothing"

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Deuterz said:
I’ll never understand the dumb fan obsession with hitting the woodwork and thinking that means you ‘should’ score.

The goalkeeper pulled off a couple of decent saves and yes, van de ven missed a good chance. For us to win 4 or 5-1 we would have been exceptionally clinical with what we actually created.
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Only because SOMETIMES it can hit the bar and go in... There's no 'right' to score, but physics dictate, that if it hits the bar at a certain angle, it CAN bounce in... Same as it can balloon away like it did, twice last night...
I also think it's yo do with the idea that technically, the keeper is beaten at that point, so what happens after is down to angles and... dare I say, LUCK?!
 
Last night showed again how poorly coached we are. Yet also showed the potential of the side if we had a proper manager in charge.

It's galling, that we could have had our hands on one or maybe two trophies this season under a good manager.

Ange is so out of his depth. Last night you could see the potential of the side, but they are handicapped by Ange, the lack of coaching, organisation and proper set up.

I can't wait until the cunt is sacked.
 
mummy said:
...and what's the latest crap about the footballing gods not being on our side? When you start blaming God for your own mistakes you've really lost it maaaate.

GET RID NOW
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Just seen him saying this utter tripe, he’s becoming more of an embarrassment every week.

The “Footballing gods”sure haven’t been on his side against the top 10 in the premier league against whom we’ve won 2, drawn 2 and lost 12, 8 points against the top 10 all season, footballing gods my arse, you’re just a pig headed useless fraud who’s been found out Ange.
 
Levy needs to buy one way ticket to Frankfurt for this guy. And let him come back with the team only if we pass Eintracht.

Otherwise - give him ticket straight to Melbourne or Perth. Frankfurt is big airport so for sure there will be direct flight. Dont mind if Daniel joins Ange trip in such case.
 
Brian Fantana said:
This could be many times in any game from the last 18 months. You can't play football and expect to win games when you're facing this situation time and again.


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There was also another, very similar one in second half - but this time VdV speed saved us so he managed to come back and clean.

Its ridicoulous how couple simple passes in the central area made by opponent result in such opportunity game after game after game.
 
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