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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Listening to the post match interviews it seems he equates possession with success. It's as if given a choice between dominating the ball and winning the game he would rather dominate time of possession.

Even with superior possession we do fuck all with it. Passing sideways, backwards and across the middle of the pitch means nothing.

Forest scored three goals (on a questionable offside) with less than 40% possession.

It's not how long you have the ball, it's what you actually do with it when you have it.
 
Interesting how many comments are manoeuvring the ‘problem’ from Ange to Levy to ‘the narrative’.

The real narrative is that we’ve had a shocking season, largely because of Ange. He’s spent a lot of money (well or badly doesn’t matter, that’s a truth); he’s had much longer than anyone would expect (whether that’s Levy, he’s waiting for a third season or the Europa or whatever); there HAVEa been a lot of injuries (a lot of evidence that this might be down to Ange, or might not)….BUT the real issue right now is that we’re way down the table, can’t win a league game for love nor money, are horrifically open to counter attacks all day long and he’s not changing the instructions to players.

The narrative around our club changes depending on the success we have. Right now, we’re awful - that’s not about being ‘spursy’ or some nonsense, that’s about Ange mismanaging the in-game tactics and not being sacked when he should have been. We can argue the rest of the narrative once the team are performing like they did when Conte chucked his toys out of the pram, or Jose was sacked just before a final or Poch after the semi year.

right now, the bit of the problem that needs to be dealt with is Ange. The invisible narrative can be dealt with later.

This morning i watched Brighton, Newcastle and Wolves, and yearn for the game they play.

We have the skillset, we just do not have the vision and guidance of a manager who can deliver.

As a side note Celtic won the Jock PL by eighteen points today. How on earth can Levy see this and think that their manager a season or so ago, could walk straight into a PL club with no top draw experience and be a success.

We in all fairness are in a mess, and whatever happens in the EL, he simply has to go.
 
Can’t wait until ange is gone, terrible manager, constantly whining about fans and everyone else.
In interviews , on the rare occasion we win he is focused and happy to talk, when we lose, which is generally the case, he looks at the floor and is proper moody when questioned.
I hate losing myself but, this bloke is rude, touchy and just not the right level of manager we need.
Fuck off ange and mind the step on the way out.
 
This morning i watched Brighton, Newcastle and Wolves, and yearn for the game they play.

We have the skillset, we just do not have the vision and guidance of a manager who can deliver.

As a side note Celtic won the Jock PL by eighteen points today. How on earth can Levy see this and think that their manager a season or so ago, could walk straight into a PL club with no top draw experience and be a success.

We in all fairness are in a mess, and whatever happens in the EL, he simply has to go.
I think because he was an unknown the idea was to get the coach ‘on the up’ as we kept on getting them as they started their downward trend (Jose, Conte arguably) but - yeh - if he was desperate to take from SPL, then just get Rodgers and be done with it.
 
Can’t wait until ange is gone, terrible manager, constantly whining about fans and everyone else.
In interviews , on the rare occasion we win he is focused and happy to talk, when we lose, which is generally the case, he looks at the floor and is proper moody when questioned.
I hate losing myself but, this bloke is rude, touchy and just not the right level of manager we need.
Fuck off ange and mind the step on the way out.
I feel for him a little - on a personal level - never great to be sacked. However, he was given a remit which I’m sure he’s not managed to achieve it: he’ll get a nice financial package and can go and rebuild his reputation elsewhere. He’ll be set for a long time from the money and in a far better position than the many, many around the country who are dicked around by their employers but are far more competent at their jobs.

In fact, thinking about it, he’s not done well at his job at all and should expect to be sacked. End of.
 

Lange spots a couple of prospects for next season.

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Even with superior possession we do fuck all with it. Passing sideways, backwards and across the middle of the pitch means nothing.

Forest scored three goals (on a questionable offside) with less than 40% possession.

It's not how long you have the ball, it's what you actually do with it when you have it.
Bingo.

He either hasn't figured out, or refuses to accept, that in a lot of games we aren't controlling possession because of how we play, but rather because we are allowed to. Other managers know that all they have to do is allow us to have the ball and wait for a mistake to happen and pounce on that.
 
I feel for him a little - on a personal level - never great to be sacked. However, he was given a remit which I’m sure he’s not managed to achieve it: he’ll get a nice financial package and can go and rebuild his reputation elsewhere. He’ll be set for a long time from the money and in a far better position than the many, many around the country who are dicked around by their employers but are far more competent at their jobs.

In fact, thinking about it, he’s not done well at his job at all and should expect to be sacked. End of.
Yes I don't agree with, tbe fat cunt stuff, he hasn't performed because his system is deeply flawed at the highest level.
I appreciate that, he might win the EL which is not to be sniffed at.
He looks uncomfortable in the role and I think he wants out which suits everyone involved.
Your spot on, he will get a payment that, would set most of us up for life.
 
Ange is that guy. The guy that says all the right things at the right times. That's what brings them in. It all sounds so right.

The problem is that it stays on a constant repeat loop to the point where he makes absolutely no sense what so ever. The way he's talking about games I'm not sure if it's last years game or this year's.

There is literally no process. The only process is what each person thinks in their mind what the process actually is. I don't think Ange has said one thing that's had any tangible meaning since he's had the job. Pinning Ange down saying anything that might make him accountable is equivalent to catching smoke.

Except one thing. He wins something in the second year. He's got two full years with rarely winning a game! At a place where management sacks everyone for any mistep. Haha. The man is genius.


His football leads nowhere and what he says doesnt have any meaning. Ange is the greatest politician that never was.

He came. He saw. He then carried off the loot.

The man has a gift I'll give him that!
 
Even with superior possession we do fuck all with it. Passing sideways, backwards and across the middle of the pitch means nothing.

Forest scored three goals (on a questionable offside) with less than 40% possession.

It's not how long you have the ball, it's what you actually do with it when you have it.

We’re doing the same shit we slated Mourinho and Conte for but at least we could defend then
 
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