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So why were you complaining about the way Forest played?
I'd disagree, success/failure depends on what your goal is at the beginning.Yes, if they don't win, then they failed.
In every sport, every participant bar 1 failed. That's how it works.
Some failures feel better than others, i.e. getting a medal at the Olympics, especially if you were an underdog to start with.
But second place is the first loser, whether anyone likes it or not.
Only after he gets sacked by Burnley in November.
Only reason we won nothing under Poch is cause he wasn't backed right by the bald tumor. It's as if some forgot he got no new signings for 18 months.This is nonsense. We had a great 11 and decent to middling subs when Poch was here.
The fact that he got us so close to winning the league with piss poor squad investment is a significant achievement in itself - and IMO did more for the club long-term than the unlikely event of Ange winning the Europa will do, in spite of Bald Cunt's priorities.
It’s all relative. How is winning a League Cup or the Conference the same level as being second in hardest league in the world or last four of the hardest club tournament in the world? If we want club to gain prestige and respect as a top club it’s PL and CL where you earn itNot for me.
Winning is winning. All you get for coming 2nd is the feeling of what ifs and if onlys
There’s no escaping that Sport is about winning.
You were grumbling about Forest’s defensive setup when they turned us over at home.
Exactly what I’ve been saying!its a temporary insanity because the season up to now has been so bad and the hate for the manager is potent.
no one will remember or care about finishing 2nd under poch 10 years from now. however spurs fans and the club itself will remember and celebrate a Europa league Trophy win in Spain 40+ years from now
Unless the club is in the championship by thenExactly what I’ve been saying!
Finishing 16th is awful, dreadful. But if we win the Europa I won’t be thinking about a league finish in 10 years time.
Does this system get the best out of any of our players? You'd think at least one player would benefit from this system, right?Thing is if he went to Newcastle, we'd be crying as to why we didn't sign him.
He's by no means a shit player, just in a system that doesn't get the best out of him.
Back up where? Mid table... great... this squad isn't good enough and unless reinforcements arrive next season we will be marginally better due to new manager hopefully being more of a pragmatist. If you think this squad is top six, I'll have some of what you're smoking!!!Exactly. All this "next season will be relegation" and "this squad isn't good enough" is total bollocks. New manager with tactical know how and we'll be back up there.
If those options dry up where do we go though... left field weirdo's is all we'll have left...quite a few wanted to have potter here in Jan
the appointment in the summer needs to be spot on, no weird left field Ange or nuno type appointments when other preferred options dry up.
I'd disagree, success/failure depends on what your goal is at the beginning.
If Ipswich had avoided relegation this season, would they have failed because they didn't win the title?
For us, when we finished 2nd, was the expectation that we would win the League? I don't think anybody would have suggested so, there would have been a hope, but not expectation. So was mounting a title challenge a failure? You can say that expectations can change during the season, but we didn't lead the table during that challenge, so I'm not sure at what point the expectation could/would/should have been adjusted.
I've written "expectation" too much there...
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It's true if you're ignoring context and expectation i suppose but then I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that...
You were grumbling about Forest’s defensive setup when they turned us over at home.